AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

And you draw this conclusion how? It has already been determined that you in the 'political class' didn't like them. But on what basis do you conclude that the 51% who hold a favorable opinion don't know anything about them?

And he further said:
"I am signing an imperfect omnibus bill because it's necessary for the ongoing functions of government, and we have a lot more work to do. We can't have Congress bogged down at this critical juncture in our economic recovery. But I also view this as a departure point for more far-reaching change."

So you make the call. If this had been George Bush, how would you have interpreted this?

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[edit] Executive Branch scandals

* Alphonso Jackson (R) Secretary of HUD resigned while under investigation by the FBI for revoking the contract of a vendor who told Jackson he did not like President George W. Bush (2008)
* "Lawyergate"[1] - the Bush administration firing without explanation of a number of Republican federal prosecutors which he himself had appointed. It is alleged they were fired for prosecuting Republicans and not prosecuting Democrats. As congressional hearings were called, a number of senior officials cited executive privilege and resigned rather than testify under oath, including:

1. Monica Goodling (R) White House Liaison
2. Michael A. Battle (R) Director of Executive Office of US Attorneys
3. Bradley Scholzman (R) Director of Executive Office of US Attorneys who replaced Battle
4. Michael Elston (R) Chief of Staff to Paul McNulty
5. Paul McNulty (R) Deputy Attorney General
6. Kyle Sampson (R) Chief of Staff to Alberto Gonzales
7. Alberto Gonzales (R) Attorney General
8. Joshua Bolten Deputy Chief of Staff to the President, found in Contempt of Congress
9. Sarah Taylor (R) Assistant to Karl Rove
10. Karl Rove (R) Assistant to the President
11. Harriet Miers (R) Legal Counsel to the President, found in Contempt of Congress

* Lurita Alexis Doan (R) resigned as head of the General Services Administration. She was under scrutiny for conflict of interest and violations of the Hatch Act (2008)
* Jack Abramoff scandal in which Abramoff bribed administration officials and legislators as part of his lobbying efforts. See Legislative scandals.

1. David Safavian (R) Administrator of Procurement Policy for the OMB, found guilty of four counts of lying and sentenced to 18 months
2. Roger Stillwell (R) Staff in the Department of the Interior under George W. Bush. Pleaded guilty and received two years suspended sentence
3. Susan Ralston (R) Special Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to Carl Rove, resigned October 6, 2006 after it became known that she accepted gifts and passed information to her former boss Jack Abramoff
4. Steven Griles (R) (former Deputy Secretary of the Interior) pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and was sentenced to 10 months
5. Italia Federici (R) staff to Secretary of Interior, obstruction of justice, four years probation
6. Mark Zachares (R) staff in Labor Depart, bribed by Abramoff, guilty of conspiracy to defraud

* Robert E. Coughlin (R) Justice Department official pleaded guilty to conflict of interest
* Julie MacDonald,(R) Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Department of the Interior, resigned May 1, 2007 after giving government documents to developers (2007)
* Lester Crawford (R) Commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, resigned after 2 months. Pled guilty to conflict of interest (2006)
* Brian J. Doyle (R) Deputy Press Secretary in the Department of Homeland Security. Charged with 7 counts of using a computer to seduce a child and 16 counts of transmitting harmful materials to a minor (2006)

he budget total is 2010-2019. It pretty clearly states that over the 6969 figure.

Oh.. so then the deficits this year and next are simply carryovers from Bush and he caused them. OK.. I can deal with that.

You're trying to have an intelligent discussion with one of the worst fools on a2k. All he knows how to do is regurgitate numbers without knowing what they represent. All ican offers is frustration, because he is unable to analyze and describe what he's writing about by copy and paste - which only contradicts what he really means.

okie falls in the same league as ican.

Isn't it amazing that okie is able to arrive at conclusions before it happens?

This is likely b/c the average public doesn't know one f'ing thing about the 'tea parties,' or the reasons they were held. Professionals and those who pay attention to politics, however, know better and even on the Republican side, are not happy with the outcome. It did not paint the Conservative movement in a pretty light.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

This is likely b/c the average public doesn't know one f'ing thing about the 'tea parties,' or the reasons they were held. Professionals and those who pay attention to politics, however, know better and even on the Republican side, are not happy with the outcome. It did not paint the Conservative movement in a pretty light.

Your SIMPLISTIC claims demonstrate that it is YOU who doesn't know one f'ing thing about the 'tea parties,' or the reasons they were held."

Please CONTINUE your SIMPLISTIC CONDUCT. It helps continue to identify you to be someone whose opinions are valueless.

Not everyone is ignorant, but the vast majority are. The reason? Simple; it is like every other thing having to do with politics in America. In non-election cycles, the vast majority don't have the time or inclination to do anything more than the most cursory research on political events.

Hey, ican, you're the one who doesn't know math. According to this budget, $6969 is correct.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Not everyone is ignorant, but the vast majority are. The reason? Simple; it is like every other thing having to do with politics in America. In non-election cycles, the vast majority don't have the time or inclination to do anything more than the most cursory research on political events.

This simplistic opinion of yours serves as evidence that it is actually a characterization of yourself.