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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2009 08:45 pm
Quote:

http://www.citizenjoe.org/node/125
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What's the fuss?
In 2003, both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac found themselves in hot water when the feds accused them of improper accounting - in the $9 billion range. This led to the resignation of both the chief executive of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines, and chief financial officer of Freddie Mac, Timothy Howard.

As if that financial hanky-panky wasn't enough to worry lawmakers, some economists warn that Fannie and Freddie deserve special attention because of the shaky ground they sit on. Here's the idea: those economists say Frannie and Freddie do as well as they do because, although they're not government agencies, the market treats them like they're part of the government. Everyone knows that if Frannie and Freddie crumble, the feds will bail them out. That makes it safer to dole out riskier mortgages - but it also creates a mini housing bubble of sorts. In other words, the feds will probably rescue Fannie and Freddie if they crash, but knowing that the feds will do so increases the chances of creating a market bubble that will make them crash. (See this Washington Post article for more on their unique status and risk.)

To make sure Freddie and Fannie didn't go the way of Savings & Loans (the 80's Enron, which got bailed out by the feds), lawmakers are pushing a plan to give regulators more power to keep the GSEs on financial firm ground
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2009 08:55 pm
@Debra Law,
Quote:


18 January 2008
U.S. Economy Is Fundamentally Strong, President Says

Short-term stimulus package designed to stave off a downturn


Washington -- President Bush and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have emphasized to world economic markets that the U.S. economy remains fundamentally resilient and concerns about a slowdown in growth could be ameliorated by a short-term stimulus package.

"[The U.S. economy] has a strong labor force, excellent productivity and technology, and a deep and liquid financial market that is in the process of repairing itself. So I think we need to keep in mind also that the economy does have inherent strengths and that those will certainly surface over a period of time," Bernanke said during testimony before the U.S. House Budget Committee January 17. Periodically during the year, Bernanke testifies before Congress on the current economic outlook and future trends.

Coinciding with Bernanke's remarks about the continuing strength of the U.S. economy, President Bush announced January 18 that he is asking Congress for a short-term economic stimulus package to help avoid a slowdown in the economy and to help reassure world markets he is prepared to act swiftly.

"Our economy has a solid foundation, but there are areas of real concern. The economy is still creating jobs, though at a reduced pace. Consumer spending is still growing, but the housing market is declining. Business investment and [trade] exports are still rising, but the cost of imported oil has increased," Bush said in a televised White House address.

The proposed $140 billion stimulus package Bush is seeking amounts to about 1 percent of the gross domestic product, and it temporarily will be offering rapid business and consumer incentives, but not long-term tax increases. Bernanke told Congress that he also supports a short-term stimulus package, but he warned that it should not carry any long-term impact that could hamper growth later or worsen the U.S. federal deficit.

The U.S. economy has been buffeted by a housing crisis, credit crunch and surge in oil prices. And since last summer, Bernanke said in testimony, financial markets in the United States and in a number of other industrialized countries have been "under considerable strain."

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who will lead the effort before Congress for the stimulus package, told NBC News that "the long-term fundamentals of our economy are strong," but "[w]e believe the economy is going to continue to grow slowly here."

Paulson said "this is not an emergency." The president is very focused on taking actions quickly that will give a boost to the economy as soon as possible this year, he said.

The U.S. economy grew at about 5 percent in the third quarter, Paulson said, though the signals are mixed now and there is some slowing of the growth rate.

Bush spoke with congressional leaders by conference call January 17, and all agreed to a short-term stimulus package that can be ready for his signature within a week to 10 days. The White House said in a fact sheet that "a growth package can help ensure that consumption and investment is sufficient to protect the health of the broader economy."

A fact sheet on the president’s stimulus plan is available on the White House Web site. The full text of Bernanke’s statement to the House Budget Committee, as prepared for delivery, is available on the committee Web site.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2009 09:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
[Codified to 12 U.S.C. 2902]

[Source: Section 803 of title VIII of the Act of October 12, 1977 (Pub. L. No. 95--128; 91 Stat. 1147), effective October 12, 1977; as amended by section 1502 of title XV of the Act of November 10, 1978 (Pub. L. No. 95--630; 92 Stat. 3713), effective November 10, 1978; and sections 744(q) of title VII and 1212(a) of title XII of the Act of August 9, 1989 (Pub. L. No. 101--73; 103 Stat. 440 and 526, respectively), effective August 9, 1989]

SEC. 804. (a) IN GENERAL.--In connection with its examination of a financial institution, the appropriate Federal financial supervisory agency shall--
(1) assess the institution's record of meeting the credit needs of its entire community, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods, consistent with the safe and sound operation of such institution; and
(2) take such record into account in its evaluation of an application for a deposit facility by such institution.
(b) MAJORITY-OWNED INSTITUTIONS.--In assessing and taking into account, under subsection (a), the record of a nonminority-owned and nonwomen-owned financial institution, the appropriate Federal financial supervisory agency may consider as a factor capital investment, loan participation, and other ventures undertaken by the institution in cooperation with minority- and women-owned financial institutions and low-income credit unions provided that these activities help meet the credit needs of local communities in which such institutions and credit unions are chartered.
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parados
 
  3  
Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2009 10:11 pm
@Foxfyre,
It's funny the way the IBD EDITORIAL contradicts itself Fox.

First it claims that banks were coerced under Clinton to make the loans under the CRA which caused the problem.Then it points out that 60% of the loans were from institutions not covered by the CRA. Finally it points out that only 9% of loans were subprime when Clinton left office but 20% of them are today. It's rather hard to believe an argument that contradicts itself so clearly.

It ignores the law that allowed the securitization of mortgages as if it had nothing to do with the crisis. Without that law, mortgages wouldn't have imploded because the money wouldn't have been there.

By the way Fox, you still haven't shown where in your earlier links there is any support for you statement I asked about? Are you exempt from the standard you want others to follow?
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genoves
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 02:45 am
Foxfyre's post on the complicity of Fannie Mae and Fannie Mac as the roots of the current downturn says it all--

Note--
Quote:
Stop Covering Up And Kill The CRA
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY
11/28/2008

Regulation: The Community Reinvestment Act is to blame for the financial crisis, but it so powerfully serves Democrats' interests that they'll do anything to protect it " including revising history.

The CRA coerces banks into making loans based on political correctness, and little else, to people who can't afford them. Enforced like never before by the Clinton administration, the regulation destroyed credit standards across the mortgage industry, created the subprime market, and caused the housing bubble that has now burst and left us with the worst housing and banking crises since the Great Depression.

The CRA should be abolished, along with the government-sponsored enterprises that fueled the secondary market for subprimes " under pressure from Clinton, who ordered HUD to set quotas for "affirmative action" lending at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

But powerful Democrats in Washington want to protect the act " along with Fannie and Freddie " and spin the subprime scandal as the result of too little regulation, not too much.

"Repealing or weakening the CRA would be a mistake," warns Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who argues that the CRA should be strengthened.

Dodd, the top recipient of Fannie donations and himself a beneficiary of a sweetheart mortgage brokered by a subprime lender, recently invited one of Clinton's top enforcers of the CRA to testify.

"The notion that CRA has caused this problem is a pernicious thought," said former Comptroller of the Currency Gene Ludwig. "These are not truthful statements. The CRA has helped to create a better and sounder world for finance, not the opposite."

Dead wrong. But the mainstream media believe it, and have attacked those, including this paper, who dare to tell the truth about the crisis. Already the debacle has erased $13 trillion in wealth, while putting taxpayers on the hook for up to $8 trillion in bailouts.

"The latest salvo from conservatives began via a Sept. 15 editorial in Investor's Business Daily, titled 'The Real Culprits In This Meltdown,' " grumbled a column distributed by Scripps Howard News Service. "Its editorial blamed President Clinton for today's mess."

As we said, Clinton beefed up the CRA and used it to force banks to subsidize poor communities with close to $1 trillion in high-risk loans and other commitments that flouted underwriting rules.

Yet, somehow, these media-driven myths keep getting in the way of actual facts, such as:

Fact: The 1977 law was only lightly enforced until Clinton added teeth to it in 1994 and launched an anti-redlining campaign against banks, led by Ludwig, Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros (and later Andrew Cuomo) and Attorney General Janet Reno that lasted into this decade.

Minority homeownership rates, which had been flat, began a steep rise in 1995, and home prices soon followed, stoked by easier lending. Numerous bank officials complain that they still feel pressured by CRA regulators to make inner-city loans they know are at great risk of defaulting.

Myth: The CRA could not have led to financial Armageddon, because the overwhelming share of subprime mortgages came from lenders that were not banks and not regulated by the CRA.

Fact: Nearly 4 in 10 subprime loans between 2004 and 2007 were made by CRA-covered banks such as Washington Mutual and IndyMac. And that doesn't include loans made by subprime lenders owned by banks, which were in effect covered by the CRA.

Last year, when the bubble burst, bank subprime loans totaled $142 billion, dwarfing those made by lenders.

What's more, the biggest subprime lender, Countrywide, while not subject to the law, still came under federal pressure to make risky loans in minority communities.

Clinton created a separate department at HUD to police "fair lending" at Fannie and Freddie and also at lenders like Countrywide, which became Fannie's biggest client. In 1994, Countrywide became the nation's first mortgage lender to sign with HUD a "Declaration of Fair Lending Principles and Practices."

As a result, Countrywide made more loans to minorities than any other lender " and not surprisingly, was one of the first lenders swamped by loan defaults.

Other lenders felt the heat from Reno's Justice Department, which prosecuted them for failing to operate enough branches in black neighborhoods. Reno put the entire banking industry on notice about the CRA and her enforcement program.

Myth: The CRA did not force anyone to do subprime loans or take excessive risks.

Fact: Subprime loans were the vehicle banks used to satisfy CRA compliance, and Clinton and his regulators encouraged their use. Before Clinton took office, subprimes were virtually unheard of. By the time he left, they made up more than 9% of the market for mortgage originations. Today they're 20%.

"It's instructive to go back to the early stages of the subprime market, which has essentially emerged out of the CRA," ex-Fed chief Alan Greenspan said in recent testimony on the roots of the crisis.

Clinton pushed banks to grant mortgages to minorities with poor credit by using "flexible" underwriting standards " or risk being branded racist. Rules were weakened to the point where welfare and unemployment checks were accepted as qualifying income.

Myth: Greedy investment bankers, who securitized and sold subprime mortgages, drove us to the credit crisis, not government.

Fact: Clinton's regulatory policies led to the creation of this new risk on Wall Street. His CRA amendments created the subprime market, and only after he pressured Fannie and Freddie to socialize the risk and guarantee the profit from the subprime loans did Wall Street get involved in a big way.

The exotic securitizations that have gotten so much of the blame were a symptom, not the cause, of the crisis.

The architects of the crisis want to divert attention from their own culpability by blaming the markets rather than their own regulations mandating that banks make high-risk loans based on race.

In fact, regulations had almost everything to do with this mess. And instead of strengthening them to atone for the alleged "sins of capitalism," we should be abolishing them.

Two bills in the House would be a good place to start. HR 7264, which has nine co-sponsors, would repeal the CRA. And HR 7094, with 17 co-sponsors, would dissolve Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

During the last severe slump, President Reagan deregulated the economy, saying: "Government is not the solution to the problem; government is the problem." He's as right today as he was then.
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?status=article&id=312766781716725&secid=1501
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genoves
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 02:51 am
It is worthwhile to exerpt some of the key facts from Foxfyre's excellent links-



Fact: Nearly 4 in 10 subprime loans between 2004 and 2007 were made by CRA-covered banks such as Washington Mutual and IndyMac. And that doesn't include loans made by subprime lenders owned by banks, which were in effect covered by the CRA.

Last year, when the bubble burst, bank subprime loans totaled $142 billion, dwarfing those made by lenders.

What's more, the biggest subprime lender, Countrywide, while not subject to the law, still came under federal pressure to make risky loans in minority communities.

Clinton created a separate department at HUD to police "fair lending" at Fannie and Freddie and also at lenders like Countrywide, which became Fannie's biggest client. In 1994, Countrywide became the nation's first mortgage lender to sign with HUD a "Declaration of Fair Lending Principles and Practices."

As a result, Countrywide made more loans to minorities than any other lender " and not surprisingly, was one of the first lenders swamped by loan defaults.

Other lenders felt the heat from Reno's Justice Department, which prosecuted them for failing to operate enough branches in black neighborhoods. Reno put the entire banking industry on notice about the CRA and her enforcement program.


Fact: Subprime loans were the vehicle banks used to satisfy CRA compliance, and Clinton and his regulators encouraged their use. Before Clinton took office, subprimes were virtually unheard of. By the time he left, they made up more than 9% of the market for mortgage originations. Today they're 20%.

"It's instructive to go back to the early stages of the subprime market, which has essentially emerged out of the CRA," ex-Fed chief Alan Greenspan said in recent testimony on the roots of the crisis.

Clinton pushed banks to grant mortgages to minorities with poor credit by using "flexible" underwriting standards " or risk being branded racist. Rules were weakened to the point where welfare and unemployment checks were accepted as qualifying income.



Fact: Clinton's regulatory policies led to the creation of this new risk on Wall Street. His CRA amendments created the subprime market, and only after he pressured Fannie and Freddie to socialize the risk and guarantee the profit from the subprime loans did Wall Street get involved in a big way.
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I will be eagerly looking for a book from a reputable Historian who will give us the details and the evidence showing that the CRA was the catalyst which caused the economic downturn.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 07:41 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
U.S. Economy Is Fundamentally Strong, President Says


Isnt that the same thing that John McCain said during the campaign?
And wasnt he attacked by Obama and the left, including many on here, for saying it?

So was he correct after all?
Foxfyre
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 09:06 am
@mysteryman,
Actually he was. Everything was rocking along pretty well except for the artificially created housing bubble.

The U.S. economy would have gone through the inevitable cyclical recession as it always does and which it is necessary for it to do--there is always need for occasional market corrections, etc. as it is unrealistic to think that everything will just keep going up up up day by day with no retreats ever. That is, the economy would have done that IF the Administration and Congress had done their jobs and not forced the economy into false assumptions.

The extension of credit is not rocket science and certain principles apply whether it is a small amount or huge amounts; small scale or large scale. When Congress started tinkering with those principles, it was inevitable that the housing market would fail which started the dominoes falling.

The auto industry for instance would still have been precarious and sooner or later would have had to address the problems its own entitlement program had created, but if credit had not been cut off and the housing market collapse, the auto makers would have continued to sell cars and would have bought time to figure out some way to deal with their problems. The stock market cannot continue indefinitely with artificial values, but it too would have corrected itself much less disastrously if the housing bubble bursting had not created a disastrous free fall.

Had our government done its job with the housing market, we would likely be in a mild but not debilitating recession at the present time if we were in a recession at all.

The frightening thing is that the government is now attempting to do all the wrong things to repair the damage and, so far as I know, has not yet addressed the core of the problem that started it.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:41 am
@mysteryman,
Yup, just a couple of months before all hell broke loose.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:43 am
@Foxfyre,
F'oxie wrote:
Quote:
The frightening thing is that the government is now attempting to do all the wrong things to repair the damage and, so far as I know, has not yet addressed the core of the problem that started it.


Hey, Foxie, what are "all the wrong things to repair the damage?"
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:50 am
@cicerone imposter,
Foxie, I have another question for you; what is your background in economics and finance? You sound like you are an expert on our economy, and I would really like to know from what foundation you are able to speak on this topic.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 11:56 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:


* economy


Paul Krugman praises President Obama's new budget proposal
By John Amato Saturday Feb 28, 2009 7:00pm

Paul Krugman's latest column praises President Obama's new budget big-time. I haven't seen Paul that excited in a long while.

Elections have consequences. President Obama’s new budget represents a huge break, not just with the policies of the past eight years, but with policy trends over the past 30 years. If he can get anything like the plan he announced on Thursday through Congress, he will set America on a fundamentally new course.

The budget will, among other things, come as a huge relief to Democrats who were starting to feel a bit of postpartisan depression. The stimulus bill that Congress passed may have been too weak and too focused on tax cuts. The administration’s refusal to get tough on the banks may be deeply disappointing. But fears that Mr. Obama would sacrifice progressive priorities in his budget plans, and satisfy himself with fiddling around the edges of the tax system, have now been banished.For this budget allocates $634 billion over the next decade for health reform. That’s not enough to pay for universal coverage, but it’s an impressive start. And Mr. Obama plans to pay for health reform, not just with higher taxes on the affluent, but by putting a halt to the creeping privatization of Medicare, eliminating overpayments to insurance companies.
{snip}

And even if fundamental health care reform brings costs under control, I at least find it hard to see how the federal government can meet its long-term obligations without some tax increases on the middle class. Whatever politicians may say now, there’s probably a value-added tax in our future.But I don’t blame Mr. Obama for leaving some big questions unanswered in this budget. There’s only so much long-run thinking the political system can handle in the midst of a severe crisis; he has probably taken on all he can, for now. And this budget looks very, very good.

Tags: Economy, Paul Krugman
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 01:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Only the government is in a position to assist AIG, but it's still the wrong decision. The government's fear in letting AIG suffer its demise is unfounded to the extent that it's not only AIG that's in huge loss mode.

In this case, I see the "cure" worse than the ailment, because it's the taxpayer's money that are bailing out these failed companies who gambled and lost.

Quote:
AIG near deal on new terms of U.S. bailout: source


NEW YORK (Reuters) " American International Group Inc is close to a deal with the U.S. government that would ease the terms of its bailout, give a further equity commitment and help it pay down debt, a person familiar with the matter said on Saturday.

The board of the troubled insurer is due to meet on Sunday to vote on the deal, which could be announced when AIG reports its quarterly results on Monday.

The revised agreement is expected to include an additional $30 billion equity commitment from the government, more lenient terms on an existing preferred investment, and a lower interest rate on an existing $60 billion government credit line, the source said.

AIG will also give the Federal Reserve ownership interests in its Asia-based American Life Insurance (Alico) and American International Assurance Co (AIA) units, the source said.

AIG, once the world's largest insurer, is also expected to post a roughly $60 billion quarterly loss, hurt in large part by writedowns on certain tax assets and commercial mortgage backed securities, the source said.

AIG declined to comment.

(Reporting by Paritosh Bansal; Editing by Eric Walsh)


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mysteryman
 
  1  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 01:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So if McCain was wrong for saying it then, isnt Obama wrong for saying it now?
After all, the problem has gotten worse since McCain made his comment.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 01:35 pm
Here's an excellent rundown of AIG's role in the problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/business/28nocera.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

Quote:
When you start asking around about how A.I.G. made money during the housing bubble, you hear the same two phrases again and again: “regulatory arbitrage” and “ratings arbitrage.” The word “arbitrage” usually means taking advantage of a price differential between two securities " a bond and stock of the same company, for instance " that are related in some way. When the word is used to describe A.I.G.’s actions, however, it means something entirely different. It means taking advantage of a loophole in the rules. A less polite but perhaps more accurate term would be “scam.”

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These exotic instruments acted as a form of insurance for the securities. In effect, A.I.G. was saying if, by some remote chance (ha!) those mortgage-backed securities suffered losses, the company would be on the hook for the losses. And because A.I.G. had that AAA rating, when it sprinkled its holy water over those mortgage-backed securities, suddenly they had AAA ratings too. That was the ratings arbitrage. “It was a way to exploit the triple A rating,” said Robert J. Arvanitis, a former A.I.G. executive who has since become a leading A.I.G. critic.

Why would Wall Street and the banks go for this? Because it shifted the risk of default from themselves to A.I.G., and the AAA rating made the securities much easier to market. What was in it for A.I.G.? Lucrative fees, naturally. But it also saw the fees as risk-free money; surely it would never have to actually pay up. Like everyone else on Wall Street, A.I.G. operated on the belief that the underlying assets " housing " could only go up in price.

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At its peak, the A.I.G. credit-default business had a “notional value” of $450 billion, and as recently as September, it was still over $300 billion. (Notional value is the amount A.I.G. would owe if every one of its bets went to zero.) And unlike most Wall Street firms, it didn’t hedge its credit-default swaps; it bore the risk, which is what insurance companies do.

It’s not as if this was some Enron-esque secret, either. Everybody knew the capital requirements were being gamed, including the regulators. Indeed, A.I.G. openly labeled that part of the business as “regulatory capital.” That is how they, and their customers, thought of it.

There’s more, believe it or not. A.I.G. sold something called 2a-7 puts, which allowed money market funds to invest in risky bonds even though they are supposed to be holding only the safest commercial paper. How could they do this? A.I.G. agreed to buy back the bonds if they went bad. (Incredibly, the Securities and Exchange Commission went along with this.) A.I.G. had a securities lending program, in which it would lend securities to investors, like short-sellers, in return for cash collateral. What did it do with the money it received? Incredibly, it bought mortgage-backed securities. When the firms wanted their collateral back, it had sunk in value, thanks to A.I.G.’s foolish investment strategy. The practice has cost A.I.G. " oops, I mean American taxpayers " billions.


The failure of AIG, and the ensuing repercussions of this which nailed the financial market badly, had nothing to do with the government and everything to do with greed and 'innovative financial instruments.'

Fox, please read and pay attention. You are blaming the wrong people in an attempt to either attack Democrats and minorities, or to avoid blaming big business managers for their greedy and foolish choices.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 02:09 pm
@mysteryman,
No, mm. The trend to this crisis was already in play when McCain said our economy was fundamentally strong. It's because McCain is ignorant about economics - and most other things including, but not limited to, picking Sarah Palin as his VP.
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genoves
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 04:53 pm
Foxfyre wrote:

report Sat 28 Feb, 2009 08:55 pm Re: Debra Law (Post 3586087)
Quote:


18 January 2008
U.S. Economy Is Fundamentally Strong, President Says

Short-term stimulus package designed to stave off a downturn

Washington -- President Bush and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have emphasized to world economic markets that the U.S. economy remains fundamentally resilient and concerns about a slowdown in growth could be ameliorated by a short-term stimulus package.

"[The U.S. economy] has a strong labor force, excellent productivity and technology, and a deep and liquid financial market that is in the process of repairing itself. So I think we need to keep in mind also that the economy does have inherent strengths and that those will certainly surface over a period of time," Bernanke said during testimony before the U.S. House Budget Committee January 17. Periodically during the year, Bernanke testifies before Congress on the current economic outlook and future trends.

Coinciding with Bernanke's remarks about the continuing strength of the U.S. economy, President Bush announced January 18 that he is asking Congress for a short-term economic stimulus package to help avoid a slowdown in the economy and to help reassure world markets he is prepared to act swiftly.

"Our economy has a solid foundation, but there are areas of real concern. The economy is still creating jobs, though at a reduced pace. Consumer spending is still growing, but the housing market is declining. Business investment and [trade] exports are still rising, but the cost of imported oil has increased," Bush said in a televised White House address.

The proposed $140 billion stimulus package Bush is seeking amounts to about 1 percent of the gross domestic product, and it temporarily will be offering rapid business and consumer incentives, but not long-term tax increases. Bernanke told Congress that he also supports a short-term stimulus package, but he warned that it should not carry any long-term impact that could hamper growth later or worsen the U.S. federal deficit.

The U.S. economy has been buffeted by a housing crisis, credit crunch and surge in oil prices. And since last summer, Bernanke said in testimony, financial markets in the United States and in a number of other industrialized countries have been "under considerable strain."

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who will lead the effort before Congress for the stimulus package, told NBC News that "the long-term fundamentals of our economy are strong," but "[w]e believe the economy is going to continue to grow slowly here."

Paulson said "this is not an emergency." The president is very focused on taking actions quickly that will give a boost to the economy as soon as possible this year, he said.

The U.S. economy grew at about 5 percent in the third quarter, Paulson said, though the signals are mixed now and there is some slowing of the growth rate.

Bush spoke with congressional leaders by conference call January 17, and all agreed to a short-term stimulus package that can be ready for his signature within a week to 10 days. The White House said in a fact sheet that "a growth package can help ensure that consumption and investment is sufficient to protect the health of the broader economy."

A fact sheet on the president’s stimulus plan is available on the White House Web site. The full text of Bernanke’s statement to the House Budget Committee, as prepared for delivery, is available on the committee Web site.
genoves
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 04:57 pm
Foxfyre wrote: 1 Reply report Sun 1 Mar, 2009 09:06 am Re: mysteryman (Post 3586697)
Actually he was. Everything was rocking along pretty well except for the artificially created housing bubble.

The U.S. economy would have gone through the inevitable cyclical recession as it always does and which it is necessary for it to do--there is always need for occasional market corrections, etc. as it is unrealistic to think that everything will just keep going up up up day by day with no retreats ever. That is, the economy would have done that IF the Administration and Congress had done their jobs and not forced the economy into false assumptions.

The extension of credit is not rocket science and certain principles apply whether it is a small amount or huge amounts; small scale or large scale. When Congress started tinkering with those principles, it was inevitable that the housing market would fail which started the dominoes falling.

The auto industry for instance would still have been precarious and sooner or later would have had to address the problems its own entitlement program had created, but if credit had not been cut off and the housing market collapse, the auto makers would have continued to sell cars and would have bought time to figure out some way to deal with their problems. The stock market cannot continue indefinitely with artificial values, but it too would have corrected itself much less disastrously if the housing bubble bursting had not created a disastrous free fall.

Had our government done its job with the housing market, we would likely be in a mild but not debilitating recession at the present time if we were in a recession at all.

The frightening thing is that the government is now attempting to do all the wrong things to repair the damage and, so far as I know, has not yet addressed the core of the problem that started it.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 04:59 pm
@genoves,
The economy was so fundamentally sound that the govt. had to bail out Wall St. to the tune of $800 B. That alone indicates the stupidity of McCain's statement.
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genoves
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 1 Mar, 2009 05:00 pm
Ican wrote:

http://www.citizenjoe.org/node/125
...
What's the fuss?
In 2003, both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac found themselves in hot water when the feds accused them of improper accounting - in the $9 billion range. This led to the resignation of both the chief executive of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines, and chief financial officer of Freddie Mac, Timothy Howard.

As if that financial hanky-panky wasn't enough to worry lawmakers, some economists warn that Fannie and Freddie deserve special attention because of the shaky ground they sit on. Here's the idea: those economists say Frannie and Freddie do as well as they do because, although they're not government agencies, the market treats them like they're part of the government. Everyone knows that if Frannie and Freddie crumble, the feds will bail them out. That makes it safer to dole out riskier mortgages - but it also creates a mini housing bubble of sorts. In other words, the feds will probably rescue Fannie and Freddie if they crash, but knowing that the feds will do so increases the chances of creating a market bubble that will make them crash. (See this Washington Post article for more on their unique status and risk.)

To make sure Freddie and Fannie didn't go the way of Savings & Loans (the 80's Enron, which got bailed out by the feds), lawmakers are pushing a plan to give regulators more power to keep the GSEs on financial firm ground
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