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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 01:03 pm
Sign of the times (and Obamanomics)
 http://funnyaussiesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hiring.jpg
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 01:08 pm
Oops, I meant to post that in the "Where is the U>.S. economy headed" thread, not here. Oh, well, it works here too.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 01:16 pm
(And I know it's Australian. but it's the same Keynesian economic policies that ALL the major economic powers put into effect that worked, that stopped things before we got to the next great depression, that got economies growing again, and that got employment growing again, rather than the death rattle we would have had without them under Republicanomics)
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 05:19 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

It's more than dumb and dumber. It's crude and cruder. Trump is vulgar. He's also egotistical. I've known people with strong egos who have a great deal of which to be proud. Trump has nothing.

Palin is vulgar as is bachmann and that Arizona governor. No one trumps trump when it comes to vulgarity, however.

I can agree that the Republicans do not need Trump. He does not epitomize Repbulicans at all, nor would he be an appropriate leader of the party.

You are dead wrong about Palin and Bachman however. They are no way at all vulgar. Where do you come up with such bizarre thinking?
okie
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 05:21 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
The vulgarity is something I have difficulty reconciling with the old image of the drab republican party of the 50s. The old republicans of the Eisenhower era would have nothing to do with the gang kids immortalized by West Side Story yet so many of them today act like gang veterans. Crude.
You are right about the 50's and the Republicans. Today it is Hollywood leftists and liberal media that epitomize the vulgarity of the political left.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 07:55 pm
This is interesting.

Here we have a politician calling for a member of the other party to be shot, and it ISNT a repub making the remark...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/politics-government/ci_17959353?nclick_check=1

Quote:
SACRAMENTO -- John Burton, the state Democratic Party chairman, came under fire Friday for suggesting Gov. Jerry Brown "try shooting" a Republican to persuade them to vote for taxes.

In an interview with Bay Area News Group this week, Burton said Brown "can try shooting somebody and tell the next guy, 'You don't want that to happen to you, you better step up and vote.' "... What's Jerry going to do unless he took out a gun?"


And in the same article we find that the dems are planning to target repub controlled districts only when they make their budget cuts.
I thought the dems were opposed to cuts at all, especially cuts to schools, and other needed services.

Democrats are considering cutting services such as the Department of Motor Vehicles, community colleges or parks in districts represented by Republicans, said Bob Blumenfield, D-Los Angeles, the chairman of the Assembly Budget committee.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 09:44 pm
@okie,
To women of our generation, they are vulgar.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2011 09:45 pm
@okie,
Nonsense. You must define vulgar in a different way.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 12:30 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

This is interesting.

Here we have a politician calling for a member of the other party to be shot, and it ISNT a repub making the remark...
I remember Joe Biden threatening to "strangle" Republicans once, and I don't remember any outcry about that in the press either. Just imagine, mm, if a Tea Party member had said something like that. Does anyone think we would ever hear the end of it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/05/joe-biden-budget-republicans-strangle_n_751732.html

"Biden: 'If I Hear One More Republican Tell Me About Balancing the Budget, I Am Going to Strangle Them'"
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 07:16 am
In addition to being dumber and more crude, it also looks like trump is less mature and that David Letterman and Jerry Seinfield concur:


Speaking to guest Dr. Phil on the Thursday night's "Late Show," David Letterman said he might not invite Donald Trump on his show in the future if the mogul isn't "prepared to apologize" for behavior that borders on the "racist."

Letterman was referring to recent remarks in which Trump questioned whether Barack Obama was academically qualified for Columbia and Harvard -- "I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" -- and to Trump's broader preoccupation with Obama's citizenship.

"It’s all fun, it’s all a circus, it’s all a rodeo, until it starts to smack of racism. And then it’s no longer fun," Letterman said.

For his part, Dr. Phil said that while he doesn’t think Trump "always thinks everything through," he doesn't believe he "has a racist bone in his body" -- a conclusion Letterman did not appear to accept.



Letterman’s comments come in the wake of another celebrity diss of Trump: Jerry Seinfeld's recent cancelation of his planned appearance at an Eric Trump Foundation fundraiser for the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital.

Seinfeld’s representative said Trump’s birther crusade had made the comedian feel "uncomfortable," and that Seinfeld "feels this kind of demagoguery has no place in public discourse."

Trump responded to Seinfeld’s cancelation with a hand-written message, part of which read:

"I just learned you canceled a show for my son’s charity because of the fact that I am being very aggressive with respect to President Obama, who is doing an absolutely terrible job as our leader. ... We don’t care that you broke your commitment, ... [but] what I do feel badly about is that I agreed to do, and did, your failed show, 'The Marriage Ref,' even though I thought it was absolutely terrible."

-- from Salon.com
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 07:27 am
H. R. 3, the latest anti-abortion rights bill, will:


The bill will:

Call on the IRS to conduct rape audits — women will have to prove they've been raped to receive insurance coverage for an abortion.
Force women to report their abortions to their employers.
Permanently deny abortion coverage for millions of low-income women, federal employees and military women.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 07:29 am
@plainoldme,
We glorify unfit mothers. Apparently, there is a "reality" television show which focuses on teenaged mothers. Their photos are always splashed on the tabloids I see while waiting in line in the supermarket. Those poor children of those bimbos will never have a chance in life.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 09:08 am
@MontereyJack,
McDonald's!

That's Obama's big jobs spurt - McDonald's!
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 1 May, 2011 12:21 pm
Romney said something about "hanging" Obama that is regarded as a bit of a gaffe. What a bunch of silliness. I was reminded of the incident after Trump, this morning, described the comedian who performed at the WH press thing last night as "a stutterer."
Romney, delivering a speech a day or two back said: "We are going to have to hang the Obama Misery Index around his neck."
"We are going to hang him with that."
Romney, almost instantly, paused and added "...so to speak - metaphorically."
His staff felt obligated to tell media outlets that the remarks had nothing to do with Obama being black.
****, we have another year and a half of this kind of silly "gotcha" campaigning.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:49 pm
There was other news today. This out of the Nevada.
Sen John Ensign (R) ended up resigning effective today, I guess, after a particularly tawdry sex scandal. Member of the U.S. House of Rep Dean Heller (R) was appointed to fill Ensign's seat. He had to, of course, give up his House seat.
Dems and Repubs initially argued for keeping the seat vacant until after redistricting is finished (end of the year?) and then perhaps, because of the $1.3M cost of a special election, until the next regular election in November, 2012.
The Secy of State (D) said no. A special election will be held in Sept. And, citing a never before used election law, it will be a totally open election in which anyone who collects 100 signatures can be on the ballot. No legal provision for primaries or caucuses unless the parties want to go that route on their own.
Thus far the Dems seem to be united behind one candidate and seem to be poised to keep other Dems from jumping in. There are at least 6 Repub/Teaparty people, including our old friend Sharron Angle.
The district covers most of the rural areas of NV and is typically Rep.

(Have I summarized the story reasonably well, Cyclo? Are there any A2Kers in NV we could get behind?)
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 3 May, 2011 02:49 am
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:
I was reminded of the incident after Trump, this morning, described the comedian who performed at the WH press thing last night as "a stutterer."
Man, that is really an insult, rjb!!!! I would be happy if that is the worst insult I ever received!
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:27 pm
I want to ask a question of CI.

Many years ago, I briefly dated a man who had originally intended to make accountancy his career. After finishing an associate's degree, he worked for Ford Motor Company in a position that sounded like it was best described as a "gofor." The work totally turned him off to business because alcohol and visits to prostitutes were written off as business expenses. Was that accurate and true in the 1960s? Today?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:30 pm
@plainoldme,
You were a prostitute? A temp no doubt Laughing
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:33 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

realjohnboy wrote:
I was reminded of the incident after Trump, this morning, described the comedian who performed at the WH press thing last night as "a stutterer."
Man, that is really an insult, rjb!!!! I would be happy if that is the worst insult I ever received!


Would you feel any differently if he had substituted "cripple" or "retard" or "spastic?"
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:46 pm
@plainoldme,
I never knew the inner workings for Ford Motor Company - as well as other big companies.

Accountancy has many different kinds of jobs depending on the size of the company. Many big companies like Ford Motor Company departmentalize the accounting, and most people do repetitive work. It can get very boring with no challenges. Unless one works in top management or for a small company where the accountant has broader responsibilities, it can get rather tedious and offer very little opportunity for advancement.

Working for a public accounting firm can be more challenging, but they not only take away your private life, but expect you to put in 24/7 to keep the partners in luxury.

I was lucky, because I had four job offers before I even graduated from college, and chose to go work for Florsheim Shoe Company as a traveling auditor in the seven western states - essentially being my own boss with an expense account. I learned alot about company politics, and was promoted to Audit Manager after 3.5 years as a field auditor, and have worked in management positions for the remainder of my working career.

Not everyone is as lucky as I was; being at the right place at the right time with a boss who looked out for me.

I also did consulting work for several years that was very lucrative; made enough to buy income property and a partnership in a vacation home at Incline Village at Lake Tahoe, but sold those before and when I retired. I was also able to travel the world - which I still do.

Accounting is a very good occupation for those who can manage the accounting department of any company, get a CPA and start your own practice, or work for a big company in a management capacity.

It can be challenging, rewarding, and a lot of fun. It was for me.
 

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