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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:12 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Your post 4,577, 893 says everything I had to say in response to okie's statement of his beliefs . . . just in different words.
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:20 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Charity is at least as riddled with fraud as the gov't. If not more so.

Anyway. Glad the kid is into math and science.
Maybe. I know many charities are scams for the execs, but at least we can judge them and pick the ones we have confidence in, based upon all kinds of information that is available to us, such as local charities where we see the actual work being done. We do not have the same ability with government, as essentially it is forced taxation to support an out of control behometh. And when we see waste on the local level, we have little ability to correct it personally at all.

All of this goes to the heart of the efficiencies of centralization versus local control by the citizens, starting at the individual, then city and local, then state, and so on. That is why the constitution was written as it was. The founders were wise, but we have drifted from our foundation.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:42 am
@okie,
The funny thing is..
Most if not almost all of the top rated charities are liberal or "damn lefties" in a lot of cases
http://www.charitywatch.org/toprated.html
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:43 am
@okie,
Quote:
I did not pick sides between rich and poor. I picked responsibility over irresponsibility


A Calvinist in your heart, you assume the poor are poor because they are responsible when the truth of the matter is that some, if not many, of the poor are so because of their intense commitment to responsibility. You also assume that the rich are rich because of responsibility. I have two words to prove that wrong: Paris Hilton.

As for your having "earned every dollar to go through school," you wrote that you had scholarships.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:45 am
@parados,
Heifer International comes immediately to mind.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 01:33 pm
@plainoldme,
I very seldom read Watermans, Okies, or Icans posts but as I read yours the thought came to me MY GOD, am I going to become like them as I grow older. Reading history is good. Too bad so many cant understand it.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 01:35 pm
@plainoldme,
Dont forget Donald Trump!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 01:39 pm
@plainoldme,
@okie,
Quote:
Quote:

I did not pick sides between rich and poor. I picked responsibility over irresponsibility


okie, What you factually miss are those who are unable to care for themselves - through no fault of their own.

You are scum of the earth who believes "self-sufficiency and responsibility" are the only program for humans.

When did your compassion for your fellow humans depart from your brain?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 01:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
My first job after college was as a welfare case worker. Some of the people on my case load would have loved to be able to work. Diabetics are discriminated against in the job market. People with one eye are discriminated against. Some had IQs too low to allow them to do useful work.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 02:43 pm


pom, cyclo, imposter, rebel and their ilk never post anything of substance here.

Are they paid by a third party to post a nonsensical jumble of words?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 07:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
Are you trying to start a new conspiracy theory? It sounds as if you are off to a good start in my opinion!

Your quote:
Are they paid by a third party to post a nonsensical jumble of words?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 07:41 pm
@reasoning logic,
No, allwet is simply paraphrasing things already written about him.
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 09:22 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
pom, cyclo, imposter, rebel and their ilk never post anything of substance here.

Are they paid by a third party to post a nonsensical jumble of words?
Maybe they don't need to be paid to do what they do? Maybe we should conduct a poll to find out who stays tuned to Daily Kos to get their news, marching orders, and talking points? Any takers? How about you, cyclops and pom for starters?
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 09:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
okie, What you factually miss are those who are unable to care for themselves - through no fault of their own.
Actually, what is your worry. All they have to do is go buy a lottery ticket, courtesy of their almighty government that cares so much about them!!!!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 11:07 pm
Wow! It seems the right wing posters are in a continual contest for supremacy. okie and ican duke it out to see which one is less intelligent than the other, while okie and h20 battle to see which one is the nastiest. Then there is the okie v david combat for the title of least sane.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 11:54 pm
I would presume I was capitalist... Started work at 14 last job I had before starting up a distribution business was interstate semitrailer driver. Retired 10years ago my company now run by my sons and I live the good life most of my friends and I in the business world were " lefty's" most of the "rightys " I knew of were in government jobs or highly paid office jobs.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 12:39 am
@tenderfoot,
Better watch it bud. The conseratives on this site are going to label you a liberal communist!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:23 am
@RABEL222,
You just did....
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 09:00 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Wow! It seems the right wing posters are in a continual contest for supremacy. okie and ican duke it out to see which one is less intelligent than the other, while okie and h20 battle to see which one is the nastiest. Then there is the okie v david combat for the title of least sane.
You already won the "least sane" award, pom!!
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 09:25 am
@okie,
I'm not a contestant as I am not of the right.
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