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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 30 Mar, 2011 09:36 am
@parados,
"Ultimately?" Is that what okie sees from his myopia in this country where wealth continues to shift to the top 10% of Americans? He is an idiot.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 3 Apr, 2011 08:34 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Yes okie.. You are in essence an idiot.

So.. does capitalism spread the wealth around? Or are you talking out of your ass when you say this?
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It is true that ultimately everyone comes out better under capitalism
It looks to me like you are claiming capitalism spreads the wealth around. Which would make capitalism socialism in your mind, would it not?
No it would not. Only to the shallow minded, parados.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2011 07:06 am
@okie,
If everyone has more wealth then the wealth is spread around.
If one person has more wealth and others have less then the wealth is more concentrated.

Perhaps you can explain to those of us with "shallow minds" how everyone having more wealth is NOT spreading the wealth around. I am curious as to how you can explain how wealth spread around is not wealth spread around.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2011 11:21 am
@parados,
okie doesn't understand logic; only one of his many weaknesses.

Heard on the radio this morning that CEOs gained 27% salary increases last year while the average worker gained 2%. okie is not only ignorant, but stupid as well. He can't see the forest for the trees, and he's a tree.

He continues to advocate for more tax cuts for the wealthy as the average worker's pay barely keeps up with inflation. There's no cure for stupid.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2011 03:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I am not certain whether I posted this information on this forum, but, I had been a permanent substitute at a high school in suburban Boston. When I began working there, for $20,000/annum, the superintendent announced her retirement after nine years. She was then earning $150,000.

The search committee selected a man with a business degree who was without any experience as a teacher. He presented himself as a "bottom liner."

I do not know whether he was hired at the salary earned by the previous superintendent or if his "starting salary" was higher. I do know that after one year, he gave himself an 11% raise. At the end of his second year, two teachers from every department were laid off. Those actions exemplify executive thinking.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2011 03:23 pm
@plainoldme,
Not "all" execs think as that bottom liner demagogue; there are a few in real life who try their best to pay their employees fairly. I worked for several nonprofit organizations (and a couple of boards) that always tried to be fair on compensation between administration and associates.
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2011 05:50 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I am not certain whether I posted this information on this forum, but, I had been a permanent substitute at a high school in suburban Boston. When I began working there, for $20,000/annum, the superintendent announced her retirement after nine years. She was then earning $150,000.

The search committee selected a man with a business degree who was without any experience as a teacher. He presented himself as a "bottom liner."

I do not know whether he was hired at the salary earned by the previous superintendent or if his "starting salary" was higher. I do know that after one year, he gave himself an 11% raise. At the end of his second year, two teachers from every department were laid off. Those actions exemplify executive thinking.
Good post, pom. Your post illustrates why we don't need more upper management or administration in education. If we returned education back to the local people, much of that nonsense would be eliminated as the people wake up to the reality of where the money is going.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2011 08:37 pm
@okie,
I don't know why you think education is anywhere but in the hand of the local people who took this man at his word. Remember, many people prefer that their children remain uneducated.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 05:13 am
@parados,
That's a shallow minded approach you have there.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 07:09 am
@H2O MAN,
You would know all about the shallow end squirt.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 12:14 pm
@plainoldme,
Where in the hell was the school board.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 12:56 pm
There is an election today in Wisconsin worthy of watching. Incumbent state Supreme Court Justice David Prosser, a conservative, is running against Joanne Kloppenberg. Wisconsin elects judges.
The media had listed the race as a tossup a month or so ago with voter turnout expected to be very low. Now it is viewed as a referendum on Gov Scott Walker and his efforts to reign in public labor unions.
Each candidate portrays the other as being a "political activist" from the left or right.
The campaign has turned really nasty from both sides. Prosser is captured on video describing the Chief Justice as "A total bitch." An ad advocating Kloppenberg described her opponent as being "soft on pedophiles."
Kloppenberg, meanwhile, has, through her work in the environmental movement been accused of mercilessly going after a restaurant owner who opened a place in a location that had received all of the needed permits. She allegedly pursued him so aggressively that he eventually went personally bankrupt.
The Supreme Court has a 4-3 conservative edge. A win by Prosser would preserve that but a win by Kloppenberg would flip it.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 08:13 pm
@RABEL222,
Who knows? I don't.
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 08:28 pm
@plainoldme,
In my opinion, De-centralization and smaller more manageable schools are the key to better schools.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 08:31 pm
@okie,
What centralization?
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 08:54 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:
There is an election today in Wisconsin worthy of watching. Incumbent state Supreme Court Justice David Prosser, a conservative, is running against Joanne Kloppenberg.


It's been neck and neck so far. With slightly less than half of precincts reporting in, it's Prosser 51%, Kloppenburg 49%.

AP reporting with fairly fast updates.
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 09:01 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

What centralization?
Have you heard of Washington D.C.?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 09:21 pm
@okie,
Washington DC has nothing to do with education but promotes testing, thanks to the right. This morning, on NPR, it was noted that curricula have been narrowed throughout the country. Testing does nothing but waste time.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 09:31 pm
Scott Walker gives cushy $85.5K/year government job to major donor's young, underqualified son
Cory Doctorow at 10:25 AM Tuesday, Apr 5, 2011

Scott Walker's administration is all about cutting costs, which is why it gave the largely unqualified son of a major campaign donor a $81,500 senior managerial job in the state Commerce Department. A state official confirmed that the young gentleman got his job after his daddy put in a good word for him. As ThinkProgress points out, Walker's anti-union legislation allows him to directly appoint dozens more people for high-paying gubmint jobs.

Today, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reveals that Walker is using state funds to pay more than $81,500 a year to the 26-year-old son of a major campaign donor with no college degree and two drunken-driving convictions.

Despite having almost no management experience, UW Madison college dropout Brian Deschane now oversees state environmental and regulatory issues and manages dozens of Commerce Department employees. After only two months on the job, Deschane has already received a 26 percent pay raise and a promotion.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2011 09:31 pm
Scott Walker gives cushy $85.5K/year government job to major donor's young, underqualified son
Cory Doctorow at 10:25 AM Tuesday, Apr 5, 2011

Scott Walker's administration is all about cutting costs, which is why it gave the largely unqualified son of a major campaign donor a $81,500 senior managerial job in the state Commerce Department. A state official confirmed that the young gentleman got his job after his daddy put in a good word for him. As ThinkProgress points out, Walker's anti-union legislation allows him to directly appoint dozens more people for high-paying gubmint jobs.

Today, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reveals that Walker is using state funds to pay more than $81,500 a year to the 26-year-old son of a major campaign donor with no college degree and two drunken-driving convictions.

Despite having almost no management experience, UW Madison college dropout Brian Deschane now oversees state environmental and regulatory issues and manages dozens of Commerce Department employees. After only two months on the job, Deschane has already received a 26 percent pay raise and a promotion.
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