AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

The American people are increasingly suspect of this health care bill. The exact opposite is happening as more and more people find out what's in it.

What you are doing is attacking the messenger rather than the message.

The link is here. I still want you to challenge the statement about adding 30 million more patients to a health care system that's already stretched to max.

http://savingcommonsense.blogspot.com/2010/10/first-problems-of-obamacare-and-health.html

Gallup Shows More Bad News for Obamacare
9:33 AM, Mar 22, 2011 • By JEFFREY H. ANDERSON
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Polls show that Obamacare, which was highly unpopular at the time of its passage, is even less popular today. And Gallup’s most recently released poll offers further evidence to that effect. However, the poll’s headline—“One Year Later, Americans Split on Healthcare Law” — suggests otherwise and is exactly the kind of straw at which the Obama administration likes to grasp. So the headline’s claim is worth addressing.
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Gallup elaborates a bit in its write-up: “One year after President Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act into law, Americans are divided on its passage, with 46% saying it was a good thing and 44% saying it was a bad thing.” But Gallup also references “polling conducted a year ago, just before President Obama signed the bill into law.” It writes, “At that point, in response to a slightly different question” (the only differences were that “yesterday” became “a year ago,” “the U.S. House of Representatives” became “Congress,” and “bill” became “law”), “49% said the law was a good thing, while 40% said it was a bad thing.”

So Obamacare was supposedly favored by 9 points at that time — a tally that only the truly credulous could believe, and one that presumably explains why the Democrats did so well in November — and now is favored by only 2. So even this poll shows a 7-point decline in Obamacare’s margin of support in the intervening year.

Cyclo, Rationalize all you want about the polls; you still haven't provided the answer to the supply and demand question. How will the US health care system taken in more than 30 million more patients without rationing them in a system that's already stretched to the max? Simple question.

That's the conservative way; they never admit their lies, but repeat them with abandon. okie is a good example of the conservative way; he even has the chutzpah to ask us to look for his lies. When we cut and paste them; he ignores us.

The American people are increasingly suspect of this health care bill.

Who's talking about chocolate covered candy? ObamaCare was sloppily implemented with many unanswered issues including the logistics.

It was not planned well, and ignored all the existing problems with those who already have insurance.

A good plan would have taken all these issues into consideration, and implemented the plan in steps - and revised as needed.

But ObamaCare has too many problems associated with the implementation and effect it will have no those already with insurance, and those we wish to cover.

It was sloppy.

You actually believe that three more years are going to resolve all of the problems of ObamaCare?

How many more doctors, nurses, and hospitals are in the works? How will three more years answer the issue of cost for seniors and the handicapped? How about those who will end up paying more for private plans?

Shortage of Doctors an Obstacle to Obama Goals

By ROBERT PEAR
Published: April 26, 2009

WASHINGTON — Obama administration officials, alarmed at doctor shortages, are looking for ways to increase the supply of physicians to meet the needs of an aging population and millions of uninsured people who would gain coverage under legislation championed by the president.
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The officials said they were particularly concerned about shortages of primary care providers who are the main source of health care for most Americans.

One proposal — to increase Medicare payments to general practitioners, at the expense of high-paid specialists — has touched off a lobbying fight.

Family doctors and internists are pressing Congress for an increase in their Medicare payments. But medical specialists are lobbying against any change that would cut their reimbursements. Congress, the specialists say, should find additional money to pay for primary care and should not redistribute dollars among doctors — a difficult argument at a time of huge budget deficits.

Some of the proposed solutions, while advancing one of President Obama’s goals, could frustrate others. Increasing the supply of doctors, for example, would increase access to care but could make it more difficult to rein in costs.

The need for more doctors comes up at almost every Congressional hearing and White House forum on health care. “We’re not producing enough primary care physicians,” Mr. Obama said at one forum. “The costs of medical education are so high that people feel that they’ve got to specialize.” New doctors typically owe more than $140,000 in loans when they graduate.