AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

Amending the Constitution is a two-part process: amendments must be proposed then ratified. Amendments can be proposed one of two ways. To date, all amendments, whether ratified or not, have been proposed by a two-thirds vote in each house of Congress. Over 10,000 constitutional amendments have been introduced in Congress since 1789; during the last several decades, between 100 and 200 have been offered in a typical congressional year. Most of these ideas never leave Congressional committee, and far fewer get proposed by the Congress for ratification.

Alternatively, if two-thirds of the state legislatures demand one, Congress must call for a constitutional convention, which would have the power to propose amendments. As no such convention has been called, it is unclear how one would work in practice.

Regardless of how the amendment is proposed, it must also be ratified by three-fourths of states. Congress determines whether the state legislatures or special state conventions ratify the amendment. The 21st Amendment is the only one that employed state conventions for ratification.

Personally, I don't fear our government, but I disagree with many of the decisions made by this president and congress.

That all levels of government don't have the cahones to control spending at a time when we have such high unemployment rates, drop in tax revenues, and increase in debts, it's not good for anybody. However, I support the idea of extended unemployment benefits for the unemployed; if we can spend billions on wars in foreign countries, we have the responsibility to feed our own citizens who have paid their taxes when they worked.

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Obamacare was shoved through congress despite numerous polls showing that the majority of Americans didn't want it.

The majority of Americans want single payer. Obamacare, modeled on Romneycare, was a compromise.

It is hardly nonsense to suggest that the Nazis were more aligned with the Progressive movement of the time than any corresponding conservative model.

It would be nonsense to equate German Nazis with American Progressives, but I don't think okie has done so.

I'm so glad you think I'm an ass. Were you to think well of me, I would be worried.

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I'm so glad you think I'm an ass. Were you to think well of me, I would be worried.

Actually, I think he is telling you he wants your ass, be careful of what is coming up from behind, very, very careful! And, if you drop the soap - uhhh, forget it.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

It is hardly nonsense to suggest that the Nazis were more aligned with the Progressive movement of the time than any corresponding conservative model.

It would be nonsense to equate German Nazis with American Progressives, but I don't think okie has done so.

Perhaps you should provide some detail about "the Progressive movement of the time" - It isn't clear what, in fact, you are referring to.

However, a few questions to ponder as you do --
=>Was it avowedly anti Semitic?
=>Did it advocate the widespread dominance and political control by an imaginary teutonic race?
=> Did it advocate the prohibition of all independent labor unions?
=>Did it organize and assist in the widespread use of convict and slave labor?

The Nazis did all of these things.

Now, that is silly Finn - reminds me of the Abuzz days, it do.......