@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:okie wrote:I have a couple of basic questions for you guys, Walter, George, & Cyclops.
No. 1. - Do you agree with the idea that Fascism is a "Third Way," which incorporated elements of Socialism or Marxism with Capitalism?
I don't agree that Fascism
ever actually works this way in practice. I think that Fascists like to
market it that way, because there's something in this approach that appeals to everyone. But you'd have a hard time pointing to any fascist who ever did a single thing to ensure that a 'third way' was actually a productive or free economy.
Perhaps you did it unwittingly, cyclops, but you seem to have just agreed with me. You also need to realize that when you inject or combine socialism with capitalism into a "Third Way," which I believe Fascism was and is. Fascism takes away a true free economy and also compromises the productivity, which in essence renders Fascism to be more socialistic than free market capitalist in nature. One of the principle reasons is that Fascists only allowed whatever capitalism to exist as directed by and for their benefit and the State, to support their State run system of socialism.
Quote:They are dictatorships, Okie. You can't look at a Dictatorship and say 'oh, they are socialist!' Once they are at that point, there is no left-right axis definition that accurately describes their control of the state.
Dictators exist to enforce a strong State, cyclops, and that is why all ultra-socialist systems that I know of have always had dictators. Do you know of any that do not? No, I can't look at a dictatorship and automatically assume they are socialist, but in the vast majority of cases they are. Just look around at the examples in the world now, and most of them are ultra socialist, communist, or something similar.
Quote:Quote:No. 2. - If you take an average of 2 and 10, do you end up with a number between 2 and 10, or do you end up with a number greater than 10?
Why ask stupid questions? I see where you're going with this, but you're obviously quite wrong in your logic.
This is a simple question, but not a stupid question. If you have any intellectual honesty and can justify your argument, you would have no hesitation to answer. Of course you see where I am going, because you know that you can't combine socialism, a 2, with free market capitalism, a 10, and get an ultra extreme capitalist right wing number greater than 10. That would be illogical, as so is it just as illogical to consider a nationalistic form of socialism, called Nazism, an ultra right wing ideology. But that is exactly what silly leftist history professors and authors have done. I am simply not buying it.
Quote:I will point out once again that you have fallen for the Nazi propaganda lock, stock and barrel. You believe that THEY believed their own bullshit, because it's politically convenient for you to do so. In the end there's really not much difference between you, and the citizens of Germany who were duped by the Nazis back then.
Cycloptichorn
There is a vast world of difference between me and the citizens of Germany. People are still being duped, cyclops, such as leftists are still claiming Obama is a centrist. You can swallow it, but I am not going to. Take that and chew on it for a while.
