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AMERICAN CONSERVATISM IN 2008 AND BEYOND

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 12:34 am
@parados,
parados, You should know by now that only Soros' money influences the democratic party, and there is nobody in the GOP with money with influence.

I hope I will not need to repeat this again.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 08:42 am
@cicerone imposter,
I find it funny that Soros owns the Dems because he gave money to groups that can't by law donate money to the Dems.

The Swift Vets for Truth spent more in the 2004 campaign than MoveOn.org did. Does that mean the Koch brothers own the GOP?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 08:50 am


Obama and Soros are liberal douchebags.

I hope I don't have to point this out again.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 2 Dec, 2010 10:37 pm
test message
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 11:41 am
Quote:
From: Grassfire Nation [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:09 PM
...
Subject: Obama/Reid set to push "Lame Duck" Amnesty plan
...
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has now reproduced
the DREAM Act, a cleverly cloaked amnesty bill, into FOUR
versions -- and fast-tracked them onto the Senate docket
for a test vote possibly THIS WEEK!

As expected, Reid wants to ram another unwanted
legislation package through the Senate during
their lame duck session, knowing this may be
his last chance for years! He will try with
FOUR versions!

In typical Reid stealth fashion, none of his drafts of the
DREAM Act were put through the normal legislative hearing
processes. Reid sidestepped the Senate Judiciary Committee,
and has proven once again that legislative processes and the
wishes of the American people are meaningless to him.

That is why it is imperative that grassroots
Americans step up now and express their opinion
on Reid's latest and most desperate attempt to
grant amnesty to millions of illegal alien
lawbreakers!

Reid will do anything necessary to see that
this bill comes to the Senate floor. Time is
now critical.
...
DREAM equals amnesty!

The DREAM Act, in any version, is clearly an amnesty package
that covers "children" up to 35 years of age. It would grant
amnesty to illegal aliens who have either graduated from
high school, earned their GED, or served in the military --
well into adulthood!

The liberal media are already spinning Reid's amnesty
package trying to create public sympathy. Don't buy the
lie!

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) immediately raised
the warning flags. "This is not a good idea.
It's not well written. It does far more than
its supporters say. And it will create
litigation in massive amounts that will
disrupt the entire ability of immigration
officials to do their jobs."

How bad must this bill be for Reid to stoop to such desperate
measures? His subversive tactics as long-term incumbent
Senator are all the more reason to believe that he learned
nothing from narrowly escaping defeat in November. He has
once again turned a deaf ear to the consent of the governed.

This bill must be stopped!
...
Reid knows that this is his best last chance to get amnesty
legislation to the President's desk. Having already passed
through the House, Reid has plotted a strategy to move the
nightmarish amnesty bill through the still Democrat-controlled
Senate.
...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 11:45 am
@ican711nm,
This is a great thing! Sessions is an idiot who fundamentally misunderstands the bill and the arguments he raises against it are completely false.

Republicans would be better served to start accepting the reality of our modern world - including the vastly growing voting body of Hispanics. Constant demonization of this group is going to lead to the long-term collapse of the Republican party in every section of America other than the deep south.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 11:48 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
our modern world


Our modern world is not happy with and does not trust Obama democrats... liberals need to start accepting this reality.

The DREAM act is shovel ready.
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 12:59 pm
@H2O MAN,
Only out done, by no one trusts one single Conservatist - the absolute armpit of the world. Neocon need to become aware of this and accept the reality, no - nevermind, who gives a ****!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 02:51 pm
@BillW,
Spell much?

The number of people that support Obama and his liberal democrats is shrinking while the number of American conservatives continues to grow. The reality is that Obama is not only doing serious damage to this Constitutional Republic, he is also tearing the democrat party apart.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 03:57 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

The number of people that support Obama and his liberal democrats is shrinking while the number of American conservatives continues to grow.

Is that just a gut feeling or can you provide a source?
rabel22
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 04:16 pm
@realjohnboy,
Everyone knows anything waterman says is the absolute truth, after all he is a Bush clone.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 04:20 pm
@realjohnboy,
The source and proof is what happened in the recent election.
Obama and his liberal democrats were repudiated in a huge way down to the local level.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 04:24 pm
@rabel22,
There is data available, which I have, that is somewhat pertinent to this. But it would be amusing to see if H2O is interested enough to look for it. Or will he not bother; flitting on to some other claim instead.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 04:38 pm
@realjohnboy,
I looked for it under your skirt and what I found was indeed amusing.
okie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 04:59 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
The number of people that support Obama and his liberal democrats is shrinking while the number of American conservatives continues to grow. The reality is that Obama is not only doing serious damage to this Constitutional Republic, he is also tearing the democrat party apart.
I am beginning to wonder if the Democratic Party power brokers might throw Obama under the bus before he runs for re-election, if it increasingly appears that he will lose. Those power brokers include one big one named Soros. It will be interesting to watch as Obama's outlook for re-election continue to flounder. After all, Soros's advancement toward his one world government hinges upon the Democratic Party controlling events here in the United States.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 05:00 pm
@H2O MAN,
Oops. Did I hit a nerve regarding your laziness? Sorry.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 05:02 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
The number of people that support Obama and his liberal democrats is shrinking while the number of American conservatives continues to grow. The reality is that Obama is not only doing serious damage to this Constitutional Republic, he is also tearing the democrat party apart.
I am beginning to wonder if the Democratic Party power brokers might throw Obama under the bus before he runs for re-election, if it increasingly appears that he will lose. Those power brokers include one big one named Soros. It will be interesting to watch as Obama's outlook for re-election continue to flounder.


'Continue to flounder?' What makes you say that? His approval ratings are still pretty high - higher than Bush's were when he got re-elected.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 05:07 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Obama and his liberal democrats have been repudiated, why do you ignore this fact?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 05:09 pm
@realjohnboy,
You are making a sorry attempt of ignoring the clear message voting Americans recently sent to Obama and his liberal democrats.
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2010 07:56 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
'Continue to flounder?' What makes you say that? His approval ratings are still pretty high - higher than Bush's were when he got re-elected.
Cycloptichorn

Yes, I think the following shows floundering, with that strongly approve / strongly disapprove index hovering near his lowest, and his overall approval rating also near his lowest. I also think Bush's ratings were higher when you compare polls with the same parameters being likely voters, etc., than Obama now has in the ratings, so I believe you are wrong when you claim Obama's ratings are higher than Bush's were at this point in his presidency. I seem to recall Bush's approval was around 50% by election day in 2004. I would at least like to see you show proof of your claim, cyclops.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/december_2010/obama_approval_index_december_3_2010/429736-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_december_3_2010.jpg
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/december_2010/obama_total_approval_december_3_2010/429739-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_december_3_2010.jpg
 

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