Too late.
stevewonder wrote:mysteryman wrote:
And if they were to attempt to shooot one down and miss, you would then condemn them for missing the rocket and hitting innocent people.
yeah because Israel normally doesnt kill civilians does it?
or bulldoze homes or kill journalists..........people are jsut too quick to judge Israel!......*snigger*
You are correct. Israel does not specifically target civilians. They do bulldoze homes, since property is not as precious as human life. And I didn't know any journalists were killed? Can you be more precise?
I don't think people are either too quick or too slow "to judge Israel," as you point out above. I personally believe many of those who are following the Israel/Arab (I won't say Palestinian, since the wars since 1948 were with Arabs, not just Palestinians) politics have a preference for who they are backing. Sort of like a sporting event, and people root for one team or the other. Based on your "*snigger*" above, I would guess you are rooting for the Palestinians. I think that is very commendable that you have a side to root for. Have you tried the inside out baseball cap, as a political version of baseball's rally cap?
Israel doesnt kill civilians!
Israel is not an apartheid state!
Israel does not commit genocide!
Israel does not bulldoze homes or people!
Israel loves peace!
**SNIGGER**
The following account is from Joe Carr, an ISM activist from Kansas City, Missouri, who used the assumed name of Joseph Smith during his time in Gaza....
...Joe Smith said: "Rachel had two options. When the bulldozer started to dig in the dirt pile, the pile started to move, and she could have rolled sideways quickly or fallen backwards to avoid being hit. But Rachel leaned forward to climb to the top of the dirt pile. The bulldozer's digging drew her downward, and its driver could not see her anymore. So without lifting the scoop, he turned backward and she was already underneath the blade.
I must be in an English class? I said Israel does not "TARGET" civilians.
<<JEWISH>> We also target civilians<<JEWISH>>>>> JEWISH WRITER 
[size=25]Many Israelis cling to the over-used argument that "yes, but we don't mean to harm civilians, and they do." After 5,000 killed Palestinians (including about 1,000 minors,) 50,000 injured Palestinians, 30,000 razed homes, and 13 million (!) uprooted olive trees, this justification sounds like a bad joke and nothing but. It's better to remain silent in shame. [/size]
[size=25]IDF admits targeting civilian areas in Lebanon with cluster bombs [/size]
By Nir Hasson and Meron Rapoport, Haaretz Correspondents
The Israel Defense Forces discovered that there had been "irregularities" in the use of cluster munitions, even before the end of the recent Lebanon war, sources in the defense minister's office said Monday. As a result of this information, Defense Minister Amir Peretz ordered an "extensive inquiry" into the use of these munitions before the war's end.
Meanwhile, for the first time Monday, the IDF admitted targeting populated areas with cluster munitions. In a statement released by the IDF Spokesman's Office, "the use of cluster munitions against built-up areas was done only against military targets where rocket launches against Israel were identified and after taking steps to warn the civilian population."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/789876.html
Zippo,
Are you saying that Hezbollah, Hamas, and the other Palestinian terror groups are NOT targeting Israeli civilians?
. They claim to be 'god chosen people' , they claim to have the most educated people in the world . They claim to have been victims of holocaust .Quote:Zippo,
Are you saying that Hezbollah, Hamas, and the other Palestinian terror groups are NOT targeting Israeli civilians?
I didn't say that. There is no way to defend Hezbollah, Hamas terrorists, because they've already stated that they'll target potential IDF soldiers.
Hezbollah and Hamas have admitted to targeting civilians. They are a terrorist organization, they are a group of people, not a Legitimate Government.
Are you trying to say just because 'terrorists' target civilians so should Israel? - The only 'democracy' in that region
My tax dollars are going to Israel not terrorists. Actually every American that supports Israel also supports Israeli terrorism.
mysteryman, that makes you a terrorist supporter. You are a justified target in their eyes.
) claim that Israel does not target civilians even though Israeli news sources, IDF soldiers and human rights groups have provided detailed reports of this crime?
Dont even think about playing the holocaust card with me pal.
Foof, you are a Zionist because you are jusifying Israeli terrorism by ignoring the fact that they are targeting civilians, you are heartless. I have pointed this out in many of the articles posted above. Those articles are written and the claims admitted were by your people the "Jews". Why are you calling your people liars? Why haven't you attempted to refute one single atricle from Israel's most credible sources. Even the IDF soldiers have admitted.
So by deliberately refusing to acknowledge admission of civilian targeting by the Israeli IDF/Government officials. You are lying on their behalf.
The only reason to lie would be to protect your Zionist pals. You are protecting terrorists. You are the cause of world wide anti-semitism.
Once again: Why do you (a patriotic 'American'
Zippo wrote:Dont even think about playing the holocaust card with me pal.
Foof, you are a Zionist because you are jusifying Israeli terrorism by ignoring the fact that they are targeting civilians, you are heartless. I have pointed this out in many of the articles posted above. Those articles are written and the claims admitted were by your people the "Jews". Why are you calling your people liars? Why haven't you attempted to refute one single atricle from Israel's most credible sources. Even the IDF soldiers have admitted.
So by deliberately refusing to acknowledge admission of civilian targeting by the Israeli IDF/Government officials. You are lying on their behalf.
The only reason to lie would be to protect your Zionist pals. You are protecting terrorists. You are the cause of world wide anti-semitism.
Once again: Why do you (a patriotic 'American'
Let's not think I am living in Russia where "Jew" is a nationality. I am born and raised in the United States, where "Jew" is a religion and for many people an ethnic group. So, don't refer to "Jews" as my people. They are people who have a certain religion, and perhaps a certain ethnic identity. But, that doesn't make them my people; I feel closer to many New Yorkers, and other Americans, of very diverse religions, and ethnicities. Don't assume I am clannish, nor tell me what I am.
I side with the Israelis, not because of any ancestors' religion, but because, since the time of the early settlers in the early 1900's, when they bought land, to farm, from the Ottoman Empire, many of the Arabs have often been hostile to their presence. This resulted in riots in the 1920's, and wars after 1948. And today some of the Palestinians still choose to deny Israel a right to exist. This intractable denial of Israel's right to exist flies in the face of the Balfour Declaration, and as you are probably aware of, many Americans feel sort of close to Britain, regardless of their respective ethnicity.
And, I've met some Israelis over the years. I cannot be friends with them. They have different cultural ways, in my opinion. I also know no Arabs. They stay to themselves.
As an American, I don't care what transpires in Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. I care about South America, since it is part of the American hemisphere.
Since the United States did win WWII, and helped Europe rebuild, the existence of Israel is, in my opinion, a similar attempt to recognize that Jews were not accepted in post Axis Europe after WWII. The fact that the Arab nations felt Israel was an interloper (the size of New Jersey) in 1948 just makes me feel that the Arab nations were just exercising the old NIMBY (not in my backyard) attitude. Jews were not their problem; yet they want to be considered part of the world body of nations.
So, since the world historically finds Jews persona non grata periodically, I just think that these people should have a homeland.
I can't care about civilians in the Middle East, unless the civilians are Americans. Don't stand in judgement of my limited feelings for mankind. I don't proselytize to you about your concerns with a people half-way around the world, whether or not they are, or are not, of some import to you. I mind my own business, as far as others' concerns for mankind.
Zippo, you need not respond to this post. You tell me I am lying in behalf of others, when I tell you I just choose not to believe what I read. And, if you expected me to read your links, you may stop acting didactic. I don't take reading assignments from you, since I told you I don't necessarily believe what I read; why waste my time reading what I don't believe.
Zippo, do you ever possibly think that this whole Zionist versus Palestinian concern is heavy emotional baggage that an American need not carry around all the time?
You still haven't answered my question. What a waste of web-space.
By the way. ALL Israeli citizens are legitimate targets for Hamas terrorists:
Since Israel is a militarist state that requires all young men and women to serve in the military, there are no civilians. There are only paramilitary, active military, and inactive military. Thus, all young people in Israel are fair game for the resistance.
