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My name is Britain and I'm an alcoholic

 
 
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 04:11 am
The British Medical Association has issued a report showing the UK to be in the grip of an "alcohol epidemic.

The Telegraph says modern Britain is like an alcoholic who after years of ruining family gatherings has finally admitted he has a problem. "A change in behaviour, not pricing, is the key to a long-overdue transformation in our public culture." It calls for existing drink laws to be made stronger; a rise from 18 to 21 of the age limit to buy alcohol; and for magistrates to get back the right to punish irresponsible purveyors and consumers of drink.

Using the law to curb Britain's binge-drinking


The Independent's editorial comes down slightly harder on the buyer than the seller. Reining in reckless alcohol consumption requires a cultural shift, it says. This may not satisfy those who want tough action from the government, but the paper says public education is the most realistic option.

"The hysterical view we have of teenagers is contributing to the problem. We give young people pathetically few places to socialise, we chase them from public places with dispersal orders and then wonder why they congregate on street corners or in parks to drink alcohol."

Leading article: Cheap drink, violence, and an outbreak of moral panic
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 04:13 am
Interesting and sad, Walt.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 05:22 am
A better picture of Britian's problem here
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 05:53 am
hawkeye10 wrote:
A better picture of Britian's problem here


Thanks for your link.

I would like, however, that the latest data (your link is from 2004) are those to be discussed here at first.


From today's The Daily Telegraph (page 8)

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 06:37 am
My link was intended to get to the nitty gritty of why Britain has a binge drinking problem, and how they are trying to deal with it. Raising the drinking age is going to be almost impossible because the culture will not allow it. Raising the price does nothing except take more money out of the pockets of the drinkers.

Personally, I think that expanding the pub hours is a great idea. The other thing they need to do is what the Germans did a generation ago...make public intoxication a social no-no, and in extreme cases a crime. Tell the folk to go sit in a pub and drink as long as they like, but if they walk out and act drunk, especially if they cause trouble, they will get nailed. Drinking will not go down, but binge drinking will. So will the social problems caused by drinking.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 06:42 am
I'm not sure. And I have no idea why binge drinking happens so frequently, by so many, on any occasion.

Certainly we (=Germany) has a long tradition ins such as well - the abstinence movement (especially in 19th century) sources here in such. (And becoming by that self-help groups similar to AA.)
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2008 06:53 am
I lived in Germany for six years, and for the three that I lived in Munich I had a habit of hitting the beer gardens. It was explained to me that even though I was drinking beer by the maas, sometime stark beer or that super strong Andechs (do they even serve that anymore?), that acting drunk would be a problem. If you are drinking indoors acting drunk inside is fine, and great fun with all of the drinking songs, but you try to act sober when you walk out the door.

Britain could learn from the Bavarians, though I was told that this disapproval of public drunkenness was a new thing.
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