God, how I hate McCain

flaja wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

And are you suggesting that someone who is "just" an Annapolis graduate, ex-Marine Officer, and Vietnam Vet could not be trusted to write a truthful and objective book about McCain?

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I'm saying that a Marine officer, Annapolis graduate or Vietnam Vet wouldn't want to become a reporter.

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Your time may be better served by reading the biography rather than picking apart campaign ads to find dubious contradictions.

The part about McCain's philandering is enough to sour me on him permanently. The ad doesn't surprise me since McCain's entire character is suspect.

You're a fairly shallow thinking. Do issues play a part in your decision process?

If I cannot trust a man because of his character, I cannot trust him to do something or not do something pertaining to an issue.

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways- Epistle of James 1:8.

woiyo wrote:

flaja wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

And are you suggesting that someone who is "just" an Annapolis graduate, ex-Marine Officer, and Vietnam Vet could not be trusted to write a truthful and objective book about McCain?

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I'm saying that a Marine officer, Annapolis graduate or Vietnam Vet wouldn't want to become a reporter.

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Your time may be better served by reading the biography rather than picking apart campaign ads to find dubious contradictions.

The part about McCain's philandering is enough to sour me on him permanently. The ad doesn't surprise me since McCain's entire character is suspect.

You're a fairly shallow thinking. Do issues play a part in your decision process?

If I cannot trust a man because of his character, I cannot trust him to do something or not do something pertaining to an issue.

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways- Epistle of James 1:8.

How might you characterize Clintons "character"?

woiyo wrote:

flaja wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

And are you suggesting that someone who is "just" an Annapolis graduate, ex-Marine Officer, and Vietnam Vet could not be trusted to write a truthful and objective book about McCain?

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I'm saying that a Marine officer, Annapolis graduate or Vietnam Vet wouldn't want to become a reporter.

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Your time may be better served by reading the biography rather than picking apart campaign ads to find dubious contradictions.

The part about McCain's philandering is enough to sour me on him permanently. The ad doesn't surprise me since McCain's entire character is suspect.

You're a fairly shallow thinking. Do issues play a part in your decision process? - just for clarity sake, this is not part of my post - Finn

If I cannot trust a man because of his character, I cannot trust him to do something or not do something pertaining to an issue.

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways- Epistle of James 1:8.

Finn wrote:

And are you suggesting that someone who is "just" an Annapolis graduate, ex-Marine Officer, and Vietnam Vet could not be trusted to write a truthful and objective book about McCain?

I'm saying that a Marine officer, Annapolis graduate or Vietnam Vet wouldn't want to become a reporter.

Well this one did so what the hell is your point? He's not a true Marine officer, Annapolis grad or Vietnam vet?

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Your time may be better served by reading the biography rather than picking apart campaign ads to find dubious contradictions.

The part about McCain's philandering is enough to sour me on him permanently. The ad doesn't surprise me since McCain's entire character is suspect.

OK - now where getting somewhere. You have no respect for a man who cheats and will not vote for him. Fine. I think such a position unduly narrow your choice of candidates, but I respect your conviction. You need only say that though and not attempt to manufacture evidence that his perfidy extends beyond his first marriage.

flaja wrote:

woiyo wrote:

flaja wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

And are you suggesting that someone who is "just" an Annapolis graduate, ex-Marine Officer, and Vietnam Vet could not be trusted to write a truthful and objective book about McCain?

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I'm saying that a Marine officer, Annapolis graduate or Vietnam Vet wouldn't want to become a reporter.

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Your time may be better served by reading the biography rather than picking apart campaign ads to find dubious contradictions.

The part about McCain's philandering is enough to sour me on him permanently. The ad doesn't surprise me since McCain's entire character is suspect.

You're a fairly shallow thinking. Do issues play a part in your decision process?

If I cannot trust a man because of his character, I cannot trust him to do something or not do something pertaining to an issue.

A double minded man is unstable in all his ways- Epistle of James 1:8.

How might you characterize Clintons "character"?

At least as bad as Clinton's. Obama may be a man of good character, but I couldn't take his liberalism.

Well this one did so what the hell is your point? He's not a true Marine officer, Annapolis grad or Vietnam vet?

OK - now where getting somewhere. You have no respect for a man who cheats and will not vote for him. Fine. I think such a position unduly narrow your choice of candidates, but I respect your conviction. You need only say that though and not attempt to manufacture evidence that his perfidy extends beyond his first marriage.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Well this one did so what the hell is your point? He's not a true Marine officer, Annapolis grad or Vietnam vet?

Likely akin to a Kerry or a Gore. I prefer to think of Vietnam Vets as people like my late uncle who was in Nam in the Air Cav and was wounded at least twice (with life-threatening consequences) and who managed to win a Bronze Star and a Silver Star as a sniper and who then spent 30 years as a civilian firefighter. People like McCain are opportunists who rely on their war record to gain political influence that they couldn't have otherwise.

Were you in Vietnam, the Service, combat?

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OK - now where getting somewhere. You have no respect for a man who cheats and will not vote for him. Fine. I think such a position unduly narrow your choice of candidates, but I respect your conviction. You need only say that though and not attempt to manufacture evidence that his perfidy extends beyond his first marriage.

A man's philandering doesn't permeate his entire character? Why should we expect a man who cheats on his wife to be honest and upright in any other aspect of his life?

Again, you need not attempt to manufacture evidence that his perfidy extends beyond his first marriage.

Were you in Vietnam, the Service, combat?

Again, you need not attempt to manufacture evidence that his perfidy extends beyond his first marriage.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Were you in Vietnam, the Service, combat?

I am saying that liberals like Kerry and Gore (and likely this reporter) only went to Nam because of what they thought service there could do for their later careers.

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Again, you need not attempt to manufacture evidence that his perfidy extends beyond his first marriage.

I'm not because such manufacture is not needed. I take it as a given that a philanderer is scum in all aspects of his life simply because he is a philanderer.

Education: U.S. Naval Academy, graduated 1964, M.A., journalism, Stanford University, 1970.

Career: Officer, U.S. Marine Corps, June 1964-September 1968. Served in Vietnam 12-and-a-half months. Medically retired from Marine Corps. Reporter, Annapolis Capital, 1970, and Baltimore's The Sun, 1973-present (White House correspondent, 1983-88; currently deputy Washington bureau chief).

DNC Video Catches McCain Flip Flops On Iraq

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/12/dnc-video-catches-mccain-_n_86239.html

Let me get some clarification .
This guy is too old
and he represents a party which is unpopular around the globe..
Among the alternative 2 none is dare enough to regret /repent.

CHANGE
is direly needed.
System is rotten to the core.

If the system is rotten to the core, how is someone (McCain, Obama, Clinton) who is part of and dependent on that system going to change it?

A) vote for the guy with the most experience?

C) Vote for the new guy who has been in the system the shortest, hoping that he hasn't been too entrenched in the status quo?

D) Hope for the miracle that McCain doesn't reach the magic delegate number, and we are faced with a brokered convention on the Rep. side?