compromise?

flaja wrote:

What about the liberal organization Cafepress, which says that animal rights is a liberal issue?

engineer wrote:

What about them? It looks like they are trying to sell bumper stickers to me.

flaja wrote:

Is Cafepress a liberal outfit or not?

engineer wrote:

But this one I just have to answer: Cafepress is a business selling political items among other things, not a liberal organization. If you go to their website, you can get yourself a "Huckabee Rocks" tee to wear in public and a "McCain 08" to wear around the house.

flaja wrote:

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe I am older than you, possibly better educated than you and have studied the issue of political ideology more than you have and thus have more experience in analyzing political issues than you have?
...

Are you trying to say that Cafepress is a moderate outfit?

engineer wrote:

NO, IT IS A BUSINESS SELLING STUFF. IT HAS NO POLITICAL AFFILIATION.

ehBeth wrote:

cafepress is on online store

fishin wrote:

lmao Were you trying to be serious with this? Cafepress??? They're a liberal organization now because vendors on there sell things promoting liberal agendas?

Are they also a Conservative orgainzation? They have vendors (many the same one's selling "liberal" items) selling "Conservative" things too you know.

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/buy/elections08?cmp=BAC_20071101_elections_smhpban

Cafepress is an online storefront - a modern consignment shop. They have no "leanings" other than making money.

flaja wrote:

What would call a company that sells merchandise that is tied to mutually exclusive political ideologies? In a sense Cafepress is worse than liberalism- it is profiteering.

flaja wrote:

Like I just said Cafepress is a profiteering outfit. It is immoral to make money selling merchandise that supports an ideology that you are personally opposed to. The people that run Cafepress have prostituted themselves for the sake of profit.

Did you all get that? Flaja is old, well educated and has spent most of his life studying this stuff, so can it. CafePress must be a liberal, sell out organization that by selling both liberal and conservative stuff (as well as all that non-political stuff) has sold its soul to the devil. Much like Amazon.com. I hear they sell conservative books and liberal books! The nerve!

On a different note, the most senior conservative in the nation, President Bush announced that John McCain is a true conservative. Since the President is older than me and has studied this stuff all his life (at a much better vantage point than any of us could claim), he must be correct.

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This thread's become another hilarious trainwreck... unsurprisingly Smile

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I kind of count on 40-hour history man for that :wink:

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ehBeth wrote:

I kind of count on 40-hour history man for that :wink:

How many credit hours in history do you have?

BTW: I only took 1 political science course in college, but I have studied politics on my own for more than 20 years. How long have you studied politics?

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I've been studying history for over 40 years now, flaja - and I share a living space with Setanta, which counts for about another 2000 years in real-people history studies.

~~~

What really matters is not the number of hours/years we've studied, but what we've been able to learn during that time.

~~~

As long as you keep coming up with stuff like your comments about Cafepress, you'll be entertaining the crowds.

That is one thing I've learned.

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BTW: I only took 1 political science course in college, but I have studied politics on my own for more than 20 years. How long have you studied politics?

CONSERVATIVELY Shocked

speaking about 65 years - including twelve years of the "1000 YEAR REICH " - it went by in a flash :wink:
hbg

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Setanta + hamburger + ehBeth = 2105+ years so far

no wonder the holiday dinner table is rarely silent Laughing

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ehBeth wrote:

I've been studying history for over 40 years now, flaja -

I have almost 35 years behind me since I have studied history on my own since the 3rd grade, so what's your point?

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and I share a living space with Setanta, which counts for about another 2000 years in real-people history studies.

It also explains why you are so addle-brained.

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hamburger wrote:

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BTW: I only took 1 political science course in college, but I have studied politics on my own for more than 20 years. How long have you studied politics?

CONSERVATIVELY speaking about 65 years - including twelve years of the "1000 YEAR REICH " - it went by in a flash :wink:
hbg

Bist du deutsch?

Furthermore, my study hasn't been limited to life experiences. I have a fair amount of book learning behind me- almost 30 years' worth.

BTW: If you equate lifespan with period of study, then I am approaching 40 years worth. Furthermore, if you equate lifespan with period of study, then you have to allow for the fact that after a certain point it doesn't matter how much studying you have done since dementia may have set in.

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flaja wrote:

hamburger wrote:
Quote:
BTW: I only took 1 political science course in college, but I have studied politics on my own for more than 20 years. How long have you studied politics?

CONSERVATIVELY speaking about 65 years - including twelve years of the "1000 YEAR REICH " - it went by in a flash :wink:
hbg

Bist du deutsch?

Furthermore, my study hasn't been limited to life experiences. I have a fair amount of book learning behind me- almost 30 years' worth.

BTW: If you equate lifespan with period of study, then I am approaching 40 years worth. Furthermore, if you equate lifespan with period of study, then you have to allow for the fact that after a certain point it doesn't matter how much studying you have done since dementia may have set in.

Wow, yer smart.

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Furthermore, if you equate lifespan with period of study, then you have to allow for the fact that after a certain point it doesn't matter how much studying you have done since dementia may have set in.

i sure hope flaja is not giving us his personal experience :wink:
just kidding , of course .
hbg

i notice flaja said : "...may have..." - perhaps there is some hope for me after all . Laughing

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flaja wrote:

Furthermore, if you equate lifespan with period of study, then you have to allow for the fact that after a certain point it doesn't matter how much studying you have done since dementia may have set in.

Apparently.

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flaja wrote:

ehBeth wrote:
I've been studying history for over 40 years now, flaja -

I have almost 35 years behind me since I have studied history on my own since the 3rd grade, so what's your point?

So you are all of 43 years old??? Maybe not even that? What happened to all that "I'm old and experienced" stuff you were throwing around? Rolling Eyes

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I think I'll just reiterate

ehBeth wrote:

What really matters is not the number of hours/years we've studied, but what we've been able to learn during that time.

~~~

As long as you keep coming up with stuff like your comments about Cafepress, you'll be entertaining the crowds.

That is one thing I've learned.

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Okay....even though common sense and good judgement tells me to just be quiet and enjoy the dinner show, I just have to weigh in here.....I will be using some logical thinking here (feel free to google it if you don't understand how to perform such a task)and basic math skills.

flaja wrote:

I was just shy of my 13th birthday when Reagan was inaugurated as president.http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111641&start=10

So, on Jan 21, 1981, you were 12 years old.
Therefore, today you are either 39 or 40...depending on your definition of "just shy". We'll say 40 for sake of round numbers.
And you should have been in the 6th grade.
(2008-1981+12)

flaja wrote:

I have almost 35 years behind me since I have studied history on my own since the 3rd gradehttp://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111632&start=40

So, the average 3rd grader is 9 years old when they finish the grade.
So, using that reference, today you are 44 years old.
(9+35)

flaja wrote:

I have a fair amount of book learning behind me- almost 30 years' worth.http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111632&start=40

So, here we have to use the 3rd grade again, because in your own admission, you started studying history on your own then. That would make you 39.
(9+30)

flaja wrote:

If you equate lifespan with period of study, then I am approaching 40 years worth.http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111632&start=40

This would give us a range of 38-39 years old.

flaja wrote:

I only took 1 political science course in college, but I have studied politics on my own for more than 20 years.http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111632&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

If you started studying politics on your own AFTER you took the course in college (which because there is no reference to when in college you took it) we can guess your age to be 38-42 years old.

Sooooo.....that would mean, by your own admissions, you are somewhere between 38 and 45 years old.

So with all that being said, at least one if not all of the following statements are could be true.
A) You have no idea how old you are
B) You randomly pick numbers out of the air that somewhat fit your arguments.
C) You suck at math

So if you want any of us to take you seriously with your knowledge and experience, please try to fix A and B. C has no really has no bearing on the discussion, but if you are as studied as you claim, basic math should not be a problem.

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engineer wrote:

flaja wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
I've been studying history for over 40 years now, flaja -

I have almost 35 years behind me since I have studied history on my own since the 3rd grade, so what's your point?

So you are all of 43 years old??? Maybe not even that? What happened to all that "I'm old and experienced" stuff you were throwing around?

My experience on most messages boards that I have used is that most participatns are younger than I am and therefore lack the life experiecne that I have. People that are 40 and people that are 35 or younger are a world apart in life experience. For example, who here can remember the Carter Administration (gas lines, Iran Hostage Crisis, 15% inflation, double-digit interest rates, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) or remember when Nixon left office or remember the Yom Kippur War OPEC oil embargo?

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tommrr wrote:

So, on Jan 21, 1981, you were 12 years old.

Inauguration Day for the president is January 20, not January 21.

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So, the average 3rd grader is 9 years old when they finish the grade.
So, using that reference, today you are 44 years old.
(9+35)

I was 10 when I finished the 3rd grade. I was born 10 weeks premature and was always small for my age. My 1st grade teacher thought I was too small to be in the 1st grade (despite the fact that, except for handwriting, I always made good grades). She told my mother to take me out of 1st grade and put me in Kindergarten (which I hadn't attended). When my mother refused the teacher failed me.

I was always a good reader but it was not until the 3rd grade that I had regular access to library books and could read books apart from textbooks. I finished 3rd grade in the spring of 1978. In my earlier post I didn't say 35 years, I said almost 35 years; I didn't take the time to be exact with the math.

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If you started studying politics on your own AFTER you took the course in college (which because there is no reference to when in college you took it) we can guess your age to be 38-42 years old.

I didn't say this, now did I? My interest in politics was well apparent to everyone who knew me by the time I was 10 years old.

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flaja wrote:

For example, who here can remember the Carter Administration (gas lines, Iran Hostage Crisis, 15% inflation, double-digit interest rates, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) or remember when Nixon left office or remember the Yom Kippur War OPEC oil embargo?

Errr... based on what I know of the people that have posted in this thread I'd say somewherein the range of 70% - 80% of them.

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fishin wrote:

flaja wrote:
For example, who here can remember the Carter Administration (gas lines, Iran Hostage Crisis, 15% inflation, double-digit interest rates, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) or remember when Nixon left office or remember the Yom Kippur War OPEC oil embargo?

Errr... based on what I know of the people that have posted in this thread I'd say somewherein the range of 70% - 80% of them.

Based on my understanding of this board I could easily see where many of the participants here are not Americans, so what would they know of the Carter Administration or when Nixon left office? What wold these things matter to them?

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flaja wrote:

fishin wrote:
flaja wrote:
For example, who here can remember the Carter Administration (gas lines, Iran Hostage Crisis, 15% inflation, double-digit interest rates, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) or remember when Nixon left office or remember the Yom Kippur War OPEC oil embargo?

Errr... based on what I know of the people that have posted in this thread I'd say somewherein the range of 70% - 80% of them.

Based on my understanding of this board I could easily see where many of the participants here are not Americans, so what would they know of the Carter Administration or when Nixon left office? What wold these things matter to them?

lmao You just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper... You played your hand and been found a fool. Quit making bad assumptions and trying to use them as justification for making silly comments. Your "understanding of this board" isn't what you think it is....

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