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Retired Green Beret Shoots Intruder - Gets Court Martial

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 10:36 am
Retired Green Beret shoots intruder, gets court martial
BREVARD, Jan. 19, 2008 - Retired Army Green Beret James T. (Smokey) Taylor got his court martial this weekend and came away feeling pretty good about it. Taylor, at age 79, is one of the oldest members of Chapter XXXIII (The Larry Thorne Chapter) of the Special Forces Association.He was placed on trial by fellow Chapter XXXIII members under the charge of "failing to use a weapon of sufficient caliber" in the shooting of an intruder at his home in Knoxville , TN , in November.

The court martial, of course, was very much tongue in cheek. The event itself was deadly serious. Taylor had been awakened in the early morning hours of November 5, 2007,when an intruder broke into his home. He investigated the noises with one of his many weapons in hand. "It was just after Halloween, on Monday morning at 4:30," Taylor said. I heard this commotion at the door and grabbed my fishing gun, a little .22 revolver, to see what was going on. I got to the front door and this fellow had ripped my security door out of its frame. He said, ?'you're going to have to kill me. I'm coming in.'"

When a warning to leave went unheeded, Taylor brought his .22 caliber pistol to bear and shot him right between the eyes. "I was about four feet away from him when I shot," Taylor said. "Looking back now, I'm glad he didn't die, but that boy had the hardest head I've ever seen. The bullet bounced right off." The impact knocked the would-be thief down momentarily. He crawled out of the house then got up and ran down the street. Taylor dialed 911 and Knoxville police apprehended the wounded man about 200 yards away, hiding in a hedgerow.

Complicating the case, as well as the court martial, the offender was released on bail but failed to appear for his court date. Knoxville police said the man was homeless. They did not know his whereabouts or why he had been given bail. The charges brought against Taylor by his fellow Green Berets were considered to be serious. He is a retired Special Forces Weapons Sergeant with extensive combat experience during the wars in Korea and Vietnam. "Charges were brought against him under the premise that he should have saved the county and taxpayers the expense of a trial," said Chapter XXXIII President Bill Long of Asheville , NC.

The trial was held at the Hampton Inn in Brevard, part of the group's regularly scheduled quarterly meeting. Long appointed a judge, Bert Bates, a defense counsel, Jim Hash, and a prosecutor, Charlie Ponds. All are retired Special Forces non-commissioned officers with extensive combat and weapons experience. Ponds outlined the case against Taylor , emphasizing that the citizens of Knox County were going to be burdened with significant costs to again apprehend, and then prosecute and defend the would-be burglar.

"Proper choice of a larger caliber gun would have spared the citizens this financial burden," Ponds said, "while removing one bad guy from the streets for good. He could have used a .45 or .38. The .22 just wasn't big enough to get the job done. Hash disagreed. He said Taylor had done the right thing in choosing to arm himself with a 22. "If he'd used a .45 or something like that the round would have gone right through the perp, the wall, the neighbor's wall and possibly injured some innocent child asleep in its bed. I believe the evidence shows that Smokey Taylor exercised excellent judgment in his choice of weapons. He clearly remains to this day an excellent weapons man."

Hash then floated a theory as to why the bullet bounced off the perp's forehead. "He was victimized by old ammunition," he said, "just as he was in Korea and again in Vietnam , when his units were issued ammo left over from World War II." Taylor said nothing in his own defense, choosing instead to allow his peers to debate the matter. The jury, consisting of all the members of the Chapter, discussed the merits of choosing a larger caliber weapon as well as the obvious benefits to society of permanently deleting the intruder so he would never again threaten any private citizen. The other side of the coin, that of accidentally causing injury to a completely innocent citizen if a more powerful gun had been used, also gained considerable support.

Following testimony from both sides, Judge Bates determined the charges should be dismissed. The decision was met with a round of applause. In fact, there was strong sentiment expressed that Taylor should receive an award for not only choosing wisely in picking up the 22, but for the accuracy of his aim under difficult and dangerous conditions. After the trial Taylor said the ammunition was indeed old and added the new information that the perp had soiled his pants as he crawled out the door. "I would have had an even worse mess to clean up if it had gone through his forehead," Taylor said. "It was good for both of us that it didn't." Meanwhile, back in Knox County , the word is out: Don't go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.

Tribune Editor Bill Fishburne is a member of the Larry Thorne Chapter XXXIII of the Special Forces Association. Hat tip Oswald Bastable's Ranting.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 11:30 am
Re: Retired Green Beret Shoots Intruder - Gets Court Martial
cjhsa wrote:
I heard this commotion at the door and grabbed my fishing gun, a little .22 revolver, to see what was going on.

His fishing gun? Does this guy shoot fish?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 02:01 pm
A lot of people, including me, carry a guy when they go fishing. You never know who (or what) you are going to meet on the water and you are typically far away from any help. Seems very prudent to me.

In fact last summer my son and I were fishing a small trout stream when something on the far side made a hell of a racket in the brush. We never saw it, but it was big and sure didn't sound like a deer. Probably a wild boar, a coyote, or a small bear. It scared us both and I wasn't carrying. Felt pretty vulnerable.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 1 Feb, 2008 10:10 am
Why was this moved out of the Human Interest Stories forum?

That makes no sense.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 05:00 am
cjhsa wrote:
Why was this moved out of the Human Interest Stories forum?

That makes no sense.


Because anti-gun-control dicks aren't really "human", and what they think isn't of any "interest"? Just guessing here! Very Happy
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 05:19 am
cjhsa is fighting for peoples rights to defend themselves and without people like him to do that, you'll see yourself up the creak without a paddle.

I think we've lost enough of our freedom and if you take away our right to defend ourselves from criminals along with the government, we're all f**ked!

I use to think of cj as a gun nut as well, until I took the time to really think about it and educate myself. Now I hope he never stops fighting!

You allow the government to take away our defense, get ready to be a slave because that's exactly what we'll all be.

Government slaves! Think about it!
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 05:26 am
Montana wrote:
up the creak


Or even up the creek?

Why are so many North Americans such dicks? Is it something in the water?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 07:20 am
contrex wrote:
Why are so many North Americans such dicks? Is it something in the water?

Yes, it is. It's killer fish! They're armed and they're dangerous, which is evidently why you must always carry a gun with you when you go fishing.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 07:22 am
Good one, joefromchicago! Clearly, you're not one of the dicks.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 07:46 am
cj
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In fact last summer my son and I were fishing a small trout stream when something on the far side made a hell of a racket in the brush. We never saw it, but it was big and sure didn't sound like a deer. Probably a wild boar, a coyote, or a small bear. It scared us both and I wasn't carrying. Felt pretty vulnerable.





While the original story was amusing and Im wondering how such a guy would own old ammo,, Im more interested in cj's "vulnerability" out there among the critters.
I see bears all the time when I walk through the woods on Kendall Head near Eastport , or near Meddybemps lake.I also see moose and deer and ****. Once saw a lynx but couldnt be sure. ARound my place in Pa, we have tons of deer and its always a kick to see if you can sneak up on them before they get wind of you. I also see a lot of beavers. My neighbor has 2 big Holstein bulls that often need to be avoided whenever theyre horny. So, most often, I carry a stick and a pocket knife , mostly if I want to collect some balsam fronds for tea or wild mushrooms.

Peace be unto you cj,fear not the animals of the field.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 08:02 am
I didn't use to be. But now with Russian boars and mountain lions roaming the state, I'm not as confident out there. Going out in the dark to setup a stand can be pretty damn scary.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 09:27 am
cjhsa wrote:
I didn't use to be. But now with Russian boars and mountain lions roaming the state, I'm not as confident out there. Going out in the dark to setup a stand can be pretty damn scary.


You are such a wimp. I think the NRA should court martial you.

Russian boars and mountain lions have killed how many people in Michigan in the last 100 years? I bet they are almost as dangerous as Al Qaeda terrorists are in the wilds of Michigan.

I did find this scary encounter..
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One wild boar reportedly even menaced a local resident, forcing him to hide in a shed.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 10:12 am
I got chased out of Big Basin park in California by an I don't know what. It stalked my wife and I all the way back down the trail we were hiking.

One of my buddies got chased by a pack of wild dogs and spent the night in an outhouse.

Being unprepared is no fun.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 10:27 am
cjhsa wrote:
I got chased out of Big Basin park in California by an I don't know what. It stalked my wife and I all the way back down the trail we were hiking.
Probably a real, live California liberal. Not something you would normally see at an NRA meeting. No wonder you were scared.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 10:40 am
Yea, cj is such a pussy, not wanting to carry a gun to protect against bears, mountain lions, ect.

I bet running away from an attack would work better than a gun. Those animals can't run anyway.
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 03:25 pm
I thought this thread was about a guy that shot someone who broke in his house!
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 03:27 pm
contrex wrote:
Montana wrote:
up the creak


Or even up the creek?

Why are so many North Americans such dicks? Is it something in the water?


How f**kin mature Rolling Eyes
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 03:36 pm
We have a "fishing gun". It's a tiny five shot revolver smaller then the palm of your hand. It shoots 22. longs.

We keep it in our pocket when were fishing and in the tent at night.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 04:35 pm
thats the gun of choice for many Mafia hits. Not so loud that it draws attention and , with longs, you can make a clean hit and begone.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 2 Feb, 2008 06:12 pm
Montana wrote:
contrex wrote:
Montana wrote:
up the creak


Or even up the creek?

Why are so many North Americans such dicks? Is it something in the water?


How f**kin mature Rolling Eyes


Like your response? It was at the appropriate level in my opinion. If you don't like it, you have 2 options:

1. Suck it up.

2. Pound sand.
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