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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2008 12:17 pm
I think that it is an assertion that Obama prevented a revote from happening in MI. I believe a perusal of the record would show that there were a variety of reasons a revote did not happen; not the least of which being the Republican-controlled part of MI's gov't not playing along....

Cycloptichorn
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 01:36 am
From the old thread where Oralloy made the same false claims.:

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oralloy wrote:
Butrflynet wrote:
How did Obama sabotage or kill the re-vote?


He had his supporters in the state legislature block passage of the revote until it was too late to pass it.



Where was all your anger when your state legislature was voting to change the date of your primary voting?

Where was all your anger when your state's Democratic party was informed of the consequences of such a date change and chose to ignore them?

Where was all your anger when the Democratic candidates all signed the agreement to comply with the DNC's decision and not campaign there?

Isn't it a little too late to be getting angry?



You never did answer my questions on the other thread. Are you willing to do so now?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2008 06:04 am
On that persistent question of whether Hillary has been given a much harder time by the press than Obama, a new report:

Press release

Full report

Beginning of the press release summary:

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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 10:45 am
What John McCain underestimates:

http://thepage.time.com/halperin%E2%80%99s-take-what-john-mccain-underestimates/
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 11:09 am


Your mischaracterization of the truth as a false claim is, well, a false claim.



Butrflynet wrote:
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Where was all your anger when your state legislature was voting to change the date of your primary voting?

Where was all your anger when your state's Democratic party was informed of the consequences of such a date change and chose to ignore them?

Where was all your anger when the Democratic candidates all signed the agreement to comply with the DNC's decision and not campaign there?

Isn't it a little too late to be getting angry?



You never did answer my questions on the other thread. Are you willing to do so now?


I don't see any reason to be angry with my state legislators for acting to challenge a corrupt system.

I have considerable anger at the fascist pigs at the DNC for disenfranchising me, but that does not prevent me from also having considerable anger at Obama for sabotaging our revote effort and then stealing delegates that the voters didn't award to him.

I think it would be pretty funny if Howard Dean got cancer. Is that angry enough for you?

There are several threads for discussing this issue. This one is even "featured":

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=113799

I think we are hijacking someone else's thread here.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jun, 2008 11:10 am
Thanks, oralloy.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 06:37 am
Ben Smith wrote:
Obama's Star Wars

Axelrod makes the strategy explicit:

    I think that we are going to have a larger battlefield in 2008. ... I think we are going to stretch the Republicans, I don't think they can take for granted nearly as many states as they have in the past. And I think we are going to add several to the Democratic column this year, and so our coalition is going to be broader.
Then McCain has to decide whether to simply ignore it, and risk an upset; or to spend money on television and organization keeping up, money that then can't be spent in Ohio.

A smart colleague pointed out to me yesterday that Obama will try to do to McCain what he did to Clinton in Pennsylvania: Even as he lost the state, he ruined her by forcing her to keep up with his massive spending.


Think of this as Star Wars and the Reagan defense buildup: As the story goes, the military applications turned out to be secondary to the sheer, crushing expense, with which the Soviet Union couldn't keep up.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obamas_Star_Wars.html

Interesting, I hadn't thought of it that way before (especially the bolded parts). Makes a lot of sense.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 06:38 am
Karen Tumulty, "How Obama Did It":

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1811857-2,00.html
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 09:57 am
I don't necessarily agree with the premise in Ben Smith's post. Yes, Obama is able to spend massive amounts of money on ads and website infrastructure, but the reason he's able to free up cash to do that is because of the ingenious grassroots operation of volunteers. He wouldn't be even half as successful as he's been if he had to pay for the organizing work and visibility the boots on the ground are providing for him. The thousands of small groups of grassroots volunteers have been and will continue to be the backbone of his campaign's success.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 10:00 am
Butrflynet
Butrflynet wrote:
I don't necessarily agree with the premise in Ben Smith's post. Yes, Obama is able to spend massive amounts of money on ads and website infrastructure, but the reason he's able to free up cash to do that is because of the ingenious grassroots operation of volunteers. He wouldn't be even half as successful as he's been if he had to pay for the organizing work and visibility the boots on the ground are providing for him. The thousands of small groups of grassroots volunteers have been and will continue to be the backbone of his campaign's success.


That's exactly what an organizer would do. Recall that Obama spent years as a grass roots organizer.

BBB
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jun, 2008 12:30 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
I don't necessarily agree with the premise in Ben Smith's post. Yes, Obama is able to spend massive amounts of money on ads and website infrastructure, but the reason he's able to free up cash to do that is because of the ingenious grassroots operation of volunteers. He wouldn't be even half as successful as he's been if he had to pay for the organizing work and visibility the boots on the ground are providing for him. The thousands of small groups of grassroots volunteers have been and will continue to be the backbone of his campaign's success.


Hmm, I'm not really seeing how that's a quibble with Ben Smith's post?

His premise seems to be that fighting on every front yields dividends -- that at best it makes things competitive when they wouldn't have been otherwise, and at worst it makes the opponent spend more than he or she would otherwise. That last one is especially important when Obama has more to spend than Hillary (first) and now McCain. Making them spend money they don't have -- so they have less for the really important places -- is good strategy if Obama has enough money to spend both in important and less-important places.

Of course it is important that Obama also has a lot of volunteers doing things for free, so he has money for other stuff -- but he also just plain brought in a lot more money than Hillary, too. And it seems very likely that he'll bring in a lot more than McCain.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 05:44 am
Interesting rebuttal of a recent David Brooks column, with lots of info re: Obama's tax plan vs. McCain's:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/01/muddy_brooks/
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 01:28 pm
Hilzoy does her usual excellent work while laughing at/ crying over McCain's ridiculous new budget plan.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/07/lie-to-me-baby.html

Last paragraph:

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So far, I have argued as though I thought McCain was actually serious about balancing the budget. I was taking him at his word, and giving him the benefit of the doubt. But I do not see how it's possible to even begin to work through his various proposals and think that he is. I suspect that he doesn't fully understand many of his proposals, and so might well be unaware of exactly how big a hole he's planning to blow in the deficit, and how unlikely it is that he will be able to plug it by the means he's specified. But I don't think that even he can actually believe that he can make up $695 billion by cutting earmarks and "reforming" Social Security.

Thus, the title of this post. ["Lie To Me, Baby"]
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2008 09:47 am
Really interesting (and encouraging!) Rolling Stone article, "Obama's Brain Trust":

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/21470304/obamas_brain_trust/print

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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jul, 2008 09:50 am
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I waited all my life for a Republican Barack Obama. Now he shows up, and he's a Democrat."
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jul, 2008 10:29 am
This is mostly a plonk -- it's an article I read at the time and wanted to come back to. Found it and while I don't have time to read it now, want to save the url. It's about FISA.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/01/21/080121fa_fact_wright
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2008 07:01 pm
Hey Soz,

I ran across a new Google tool that might interest you. It's a web-based notebook much like how you are using this little political blog and you can invite others to collaborate with you on the notebook.

Here's the text that describes it along with a try me demo.

http://www.google.com/googlenotebook/tour1.html

And here's a video that shows visually how to use it. No captioning, unfortunately.

http://www.google.com/googlenotebook/videos/clip.html
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jul, 2008 07:19 pm
Very cool! Turning off the computer now (actually meant to several minutes ago) but that's piqued my interest, will check it out more thoroughly later. Thanks for thinking of me...!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2008 06:46 pm
The former Poblano (now going by his real name, Nate Silver) at FiveThirtyEight.com has been a break-out star during this election cycle -- really sharp, really good insights. I liked this post, as just sort of a general observation of punditry:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/07/my-least-favorite-argument.html

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Obviously, I have a lot of nits to pick when it comes to campaign coverage, but my single least favorite brand of analysis is what I term "Match Game Arguments": No candidate has ever [blank]. Given various intersections of geography, demography and history, there are literally thousands of plausible-sounding permutations that can be conceived to rule out any prospective candidate.


He then demolishes one such argument from someone saying that McCain has the edge because...
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 07:25 am
Good article by Samantha Powers.

The Democrats and National Security

Excerpts:

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Prominent Democrats must drive home the continuing costs of remaining in Iraq--costs to Iraq, the region, Afghanistan,[9] US military readiness, and national security as a whole-- while describing the specific ways an Obama administration would limit the harmful consequences of withdrawal. (In fact, Obama outlined such plans in a speech last year but it got little attention and needs reinforcement from the Democratic echo chamber.)

Obama has long stated his intention to retain a Quick-Reaction Force in the region to carry out counterterrorism operations against al-Qaeda and other such networks. He has made clear his concern for Iraqi civilians in mixed neighborhoods who might be more vulnerable following a withdrawal of US combat brigades. He would offer these civilians fair notice of US plans and would be open to relocating those who would feel more secure if they moved. He has promised $2 billion to assist the two million Iraqi refugees in neighboring countries. He would establish a war crimes commission to gather the testimony of survivors and put militia leaders on notice that they may eventually be prosecuted. Obama's plan to meet with the region's heads of state is the first of many steps that will be required to prevent regional conflict.

Since Vietnam there has never been a more auspicious time for the Democratic Party to establish close relations with the US military. Building on Obama's October 2002 speech explaining his opposition to the war in Iraq, Democrats can continue to argue that Obama and his party will never do what the Republicans have done: send US service members to fight unnecessary wars. He will not stretch the US military and military families to their breaking points by extending tours of duty beyond what is tolerable. He will not order young cadets and reservists to carry out cruel and inhuman acts against foreign detainees and then abandon them when it becomes politically inconvenient, allowing them to be court-martialed while those who authorized the practices take up high-paying jobs at corporate law firms or prestigious teaching posts at top-flight law schools.

Democrats should make it clear that they will listen to the military's pleas to make major improvements in the civilian components of the government that work with the military on policing, governance, and reconstruction. Republicans have had eight years to respond to the appeals of US generals like David Petraeus who have begged for more and better-equipped civilian partners to join US soldiers; yet more US personnel still serve in US military marching bands than in the foreign service.

With their grossly inadequate veterans' care, moreover, the Bush administration and the Republican-controlled Congress badly failed many of those returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. It is Democrats in Congress such as Jim Webb and Obama who have put forth the health care and college tuition plans that treat American veterans with the respect and dignity they deserve during their difficult transitions to civilian life. The Republicans' failure to support first-class care for returning service members is not only immoral; it is contributing to the difficulty the armed forces are now having in recruiting and retaining volunteers.

Democrats must also help voters see--and reject once and for all--the false choice that George W. Bush and now McCain offer between militarism and "appeasement." When John F. Kennedy was ridiculed by the right for his plans to negotiate with Communist countries, he rejected outright the idea that "we have only two choices: appeasement or war, suicide or surrender, humiliation or holocaust, to be either Red or dead." Obama and the Democrats today can show that while the United States refused to talk to America's adversaries, Iran and North Korea both advanced much further in their nuclear development.

And finally Democrats must play up the sharp differences that exist....
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