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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 09:58 am
This looks useful -- a superdelegate primer:

Oops, the below was what was on my clipboard when I tried to paste. Will include it anyway. From "First Read" (which also pointed me to the primer):

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Now, the primer:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23147072/
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 10:08 am
sozobe wrote:
I keep seeing more about how the Clinton campaign put all of its eggs in one basket, and that basket was "wrap up nomination on or before Super Tuesday":

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/us/politics/14clinton.html

Not just that, though, also a lot about superior organizational effort from Obama in general.


Given how relatively short the period of time has been for Obama's campaign to get up and organized (in contrast with Hillary's campaign) somebody deserves serious kudos. And we ought to acknowledge that this says some pretty good things about Obama's ability to spot and then utilize high-quality executive talent.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 10:29 am
Posting here, b/c cj got the Obama thread locked.

Linc Chaffee endorses Obama. This is interesting. I think that Obama will say, 'this is EXACTLY what I mean when I say disaffected Republicans. Those who are willing to help, even though we don't share all the same opinions. Senator Clinton cannot do this.'

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 10:32 am
Oh, that's cool about Chaffee! Didn't know that, thanks. Certainly makes sense.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 10:33 am
sozobe wrote:
Oh, that's cool about Chaffee! Didn't know that, thanks. Certainly makes sense.


Just happened, lol

Also, Rassmussen has Obama +12 in their latest national poll.

Cycloptichorn
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 10:34 am
If Chaffee endorsed Obama rather than Hillary, then I think it is safe to say that Coulter will express disagreement.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 10:51 am
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/ris_lincoln_chafee_endorses_ba.html

"Fortitude." I like that word, good for Obama.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 11:04 am
Heh..!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE3jLCC_rwo
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 11:46 am
no, you can't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI7WwY4a9ro&eurl=http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 11:48 am
See, now THAT'S funny!

Cycloptichorn
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 01:04 pm
The (real) nastiness is ramping up...

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Fox News Radio's Tom Sullivan aired "side-by-side comparison" of speeches by Hitler and Obama
Fox News Radio host Tom Sullivan took a call from a listener who stated that when listening to Barack Obama speak, "it harkens back to when I was younger and I used to watch those deals with Hitler, how he would excite the crowd and they'd come to their feet and scream and yell." Sullivan then played a "side-by-side comparison" of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech. Sullivan later said he wouldn't play it again, then begged: "Can I, please, one more time? Just one more time? Then I won't do it again. ... Until the next time."
http://mediamatters.org/
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 01:05 pm
and you'll see on the same page...

Quote:
Fox News host Banderas called Obama a "Halfrican"


Quote:
Laura Ingraham on Al Sharpton's visit to the White House: "I hope they nailed down all the valuables"
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 02:45 pm
Ezra Klein's on MI/FL, again:

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OUT FOR THEMSELVES.

The New York Times reports:

    With every delegate precious, Mrs. Clinton's advisers also made it clear that they were prepared to take a number of potentially incendiary steps to build up Mrs. Clinton's count. Top among these, her aides said, is pressing for Democrats to seat the disputed delegations from Florida and Michigan, who held their primaries in January in defiance of Democratic Party rules.



Put another way: If Hillary Clinton does not win delegates out of a majority of contested primaries and caucuses, her aides are willing to rip the party apart to secure the nomination, to cheat in a way that will rend the Democratic coalition and probably destroy Clinton's chances in the general election. Imagine the fury in the African-American community if Barack Obama leads in delegates but is denied the nomination because the Clinton campaign is able to change the rules to seat delegates from Michigan, where no other candidates were even on the ballot, and from Florida, where no one campaigned. Imagine the anger among the young voters Obama brought into the process, and was making into Democratic voters. Imagine the feeling of betrayal among his supporters more generally, and the disgust among independents watching the battle take place on the convention floor. Imagine how statesmanlike John McCain will look in comparison, how orderly and focused the Republican convention will appear.

This demonstrates not only a gross ruthlessness on the part of Clinton's campaign, but an astonishingly cavalier attitude towards the preservation of the progressive coalition. To be willing to blithely rip it to shreds in order to wrest a nomination that's not been fairly earned is not only low, but a demonstration of deeply pernicious priorities -- namely, it's an explicit statement that the campaign puts its own political success above the health of the party and the pursuit of progressive goals, and one can't but help assume that's exactly the attitude they would take towards governance, too.


http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=02&year=2008&base_name=out_for_themselves
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 03:04 pm
SEIU and UFCW national unions to endorse Obama tonight!

Lots of union workers in Ohio...

Cycloptichorn
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 03:15 pm
blatham wrote:
The (real) nastiness is ramping up...

Quote:
Fox News Radio's Tom Sullivan aired "side-by-side comparison" of speeches by Hitler and Obama
Fox News Radio host Tom Sullivan took a call from a listener who stated that when listening to Barack Obama speak, "it harkens back to when I was younger and I used to watch those deals with Hitler, how he would excite the crowd and they'd come to their feet and scream and yell." Sullivan then played a "side-by-side comparison" of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech. Sullivan later said he wouldn't play it again, then begged: "Can I, please, one more time? Just one more time? Then I won't do it again. ... Until the next time."
http://mediamatters.org/


CNN continues to swim in the nastiness pool too:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802120007

Quote:
On the February 11 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, in a report
about presidential candidates' "body language" and "why ... they
point" when addressing crowds, national news correspondent Jeanne Moos
said, "[S]ince we usually can't see who the candidates are pointing
at, we'll just have to use our imagination." Moments later, as noted
on the websiteblip.tv, video of Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) pointing was
followed by a zoomed-in still of Osama bin Laden. Moos also suggested
that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) was pointing to Monica
Lewinsky and that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was pointing to right-wing
pundit Ann Coulter.



As Media Matters for America noted, on the December 11, 2006, edition
of The Situation Room, Moos said that "[o]nly one little consonant
differentiates" Obama and Osama. She then added, "[A]s if that
similarity weren't enough. How about sharing the name of a former
dictator? You know his middle name, Hussein." Additionally, on the
December 11, 2006, edition of The Situation Room, then CNN senior
political analyst Jeff Greenfield compared the similarity of Obama's
"business casual" clothing to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's
"jacket-and-no-tie look." Greenfield concluded the segment by saying:
"Now, it is one thing to have a last name that sounds like Osama and a
middle name, Hussein, that is probably less than helpful. But an
outfit that reminds people of a charter member of the axis of evil,
why, this could leave his presidential hopes hanging by a thread." He
later explained on the CNN website that he was making "a joke."

A December 19, 2007, post on The New York Times' Caucus blog,
headlined "CNN's Obama/Osama Habit" noted several instances in 2007 in
which CNN personalities or on-screen text "confused" Obama with bin
Laden:


The link above has more examples from CNN and a transcript of the latest video they created to make a spoof of it all.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 04:18 pm
blatham wrote:
The (real) nastiness is ramping up...

Quote:
Fox News Radio's Tom Sullivan aired "side-by-side comparison" of speeches by Hitler and Obama
Fox News Radio host Tom Sullivan took a call from a listener who stated that when listening to Barack Obama speak, "it harkens back to when I was younger and I used to watch those deals with Hitler, how he would excite the crowd and they'd come to their feet and scream and yell." Sullivan then played a "side-by-side comparison" of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech. Sullivan later said he wouldn't play it again, then begged: "Can I, please, one more time? Just one more time? Then I won't do it again. ... Until the next time."
http://mediamatters.org/



The real nastiness on A2K is ramping up too.

What a sad day for A2K.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 05:10 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
blatham wrote:
The (real) nastiness is ramping up...

Quote:
Fox News Radio's Tom Sullivan aired "side-by-side comparison" of speeches by Hitler and Obama
Fox News Radio host Tom Sullivan took a call from a listener who stated that when listening to Barack Obama speak, "it harkens back to when I was younger and I used to watch those deals with Hitler, how he would excite the crowd and they'd come to their feet and scream and yell." Sullivan then played a "side-by-side comparison" of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech. Sullivan later said he wouldn't play it again, then begged: "Can I, please, one more time? Just one more time? Then I won't do it again. ... Until the next time."
http://mediamatters.org/



The real nastiness on A2K is ramping up too.

What a sad day for A2K.


Lots of threads have been blocked here before, if that's what you refer to.

Or, if you are referring to the debates among folk on the left, there's passion and there's disagreement (and strains on friendships perhaps) but I don't see how we might have avoided that given the unique specifics of this nomination battle and the importance we each acknowledge of this general election. And if we compare voices here to many other sites, I find us pretty tame.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 05:18 pm
Nope, not just referring to the one locked thread. That was rather tame compared to others today.

Passion and disagreement I have no problem with.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 05:25 pm
I'm not sure what you refer to then. Send me a pm if you care to. Or we could just carry on and trust folks will settle themselves in time.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2008 07:50 pm
Barbara Ehrenrich -- she's more optimistic than I am, but it's an interesting read:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/unstoppable-obama_b_86677.html
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