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Mon 7 Jan, 2008 09:25 pm
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It touched me but I think it will hurt her. A woman running for president showing that much emotion? I think a lot of people will react negatively to it.
I must say it did touch me, but it made me feel sorry for her.
She's running out of cards. And tricks. She's shameless.
I am an actor. Part of her emotions were real but part of it was acting in my professional opinion. After all, she is seeing all her dreams go up in smoke.
You're right Rox. I think that will hurt her majorly!
Well, I've never seen or heard of her getting choked up about anything in the many, many years she's suppposedly been in public office and todays' emotional show was way too convenient and much too coincidental for me to buy into.
You may be right there eoe! She is a politician after all!
Montana wrote:You may be right there eoe! She is a politician after all!
A very desperate politician at the moment.
eoe wrote:Well, I've never seen or heard of her getting choked up about anything in the many, many years she's suppposedly been in public office and todays' emotional show was way too convenient and much too coincidental for me to buy into.
True, she never let the public see that side of her.(even during Monicagate) All these pols are actors BTW. That little vulnerability bit she did on the debate the other night played well so she was advised to try more of it but this time she might went too far IMO.
eoe wrote:Montana wrote:You may be right there eoe! She is a politician after all!
A very desperate politician at the moment.
Agreed but on a human level, it's hard not to feel for her.
OTOH we may be writing her obit prematurely.
But I don't think so.
It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
If Obama wins NH convincingly, (8-10 points) it's over.
I don't understand why you would feel more sorry for Hillary than for any other candidate who runs and loses. (maybe) Somebody's gotta win, somebody's gotta lose, right?
Yes, let Obama win!
I don't doubt the sincerity of Hillary's emotion. All for the wrong reason
though. This is the first time she truly feels that the candidacy for the
Democratic nomination is slipping from her. She got choked up for her
own selfish reason, as she sees her dream of becoming the most powerful
women, slip away.
Olbermann is blasting Hillary, saying that she was playing the terror card earlier in the day then the tears later, Olbermann calls it the fear and tear card.
When you have lost Keith Obermann, you have lost the mainstream left.
I thought it was fake too...between her and Ellen they could set back feminism decades.
Whether it was real or staged it relates to her crumbling belief that she was the inevitable nominee. Like a child watching it slip way she weeps because someone is taking what was hers.
From a guy's point of view, I don't think it was a plus. It might make guys uncomfortable with her like they would be with a co-working crying in the office place. Still, I think much is being made about nothing. She's out there trying to push her message and some woman asks her about her hair. That has got to be frustrating. That woman had a rare chance to ask a candidate a direct question knowing that millions would hear the answer, a chance to add some clarity to Senator Clinton's policy stance. Senator Clinton has prepared all her answers, studied up on the issues, practiced all the spin, and here it comes: Who does your hair? To me, this was similar to the "Boxers or Briefs" question her husband was asked, but this came from an adult.
I hadn't seen this thread -- this is what I just said on the subject on the "Obama '08" thread:
I think that Hillary's show of emotion could have been both strategic and genuine. That is, I think her advisors could have said, "Look, you're tired, you're stressed, and you're working hard to keep looking tough and hardworking. That's fine, but letting people know how hard this is for you could be humanizing. Don't force anything, but go ahead and let your guard down a bit."
One article/ blog (I don't remember) I read was talking about how Hillary was at her best when she was most exhausted -- her facial expressions were more subtle, her voice gentler, etc. That was the day before the emotional thing, and I could see that playing into any possible advice she may have gotten. (Whatever it was it was a fairly well-known outlet -- Sullivan, maybe, or Huffington Post. Something like that.)
The contrast of reactions to people's tears is rather remarkable. When I read the transcript; she seems real to me.
Quote:CLINTON: It's not easy, it's not easy. And I couldn't do it if I just didn't, you know, passionately believe it was the right thing to do. You know, I have so many opportunities from this country. I just don't want to see us fall backwards, you know? So.
[applause]
You know, this is very personal for me. It's not just political, it's not just public. I see what's happening, and we have to reverse it. And some people think elections are a game. They think it's like who's up or who's down. It's about our country, and it's about our kids' futures. And it's really about all of us, together. You know, some of us put ourselves out there and do this against some pretty difficult odds. And we do it, each one of us, because we care about our country.
But some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready, and some of us are not. Some of us know what we will do on day one, and some of us haven't really thought that through enough. And so, when we look at the array of problems we have, and the potential for it getting -- really spinning out of control, this is one of the most important elections America's ever faced.
So, as tired as I am -- and I am -- and as difficult as it is to kind of keep up what I try to do on the road, like occasionally exercise and try to eat right -- it's tough when the easiest food is pizza -- I just believe so strongly in who we are as a nation. So I'm going to do everything I can to make my case, and, you know, then the voters get to decide. Thank you all.
In contrast to the Times and to Smith, ABCNews.com reported: " 'It's not easy, and I couldn't do it if I didn't passionately believe it was the right thing to do,' said Clinton, getting visibly emotional. 'You know, I have so many opportunities from this country I just don't want to see us fall backwards.' "
From the January 7 New York Times article, by Patrick Healy and Marc Santora:
In perhaps her most public display of emotion of the presidential campaign, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's eyes welled with tears, and her voice cracked dramatically on Monday, as she talked about holding up under the rigors of the race and her belief that she is the best candidate for the Democratic nomination.
If it was not an Ed Muskie moment -- Mrs. Clinton did not cry (or look like she was crying) -- she was certainly on the verge of it after a woman asked her, at a round table discussion at a coffee shop here, how she managed to get out of bed and soldier through each day.
"How do you do it?" the woman, Marianne Pernold, asked. And, with a touch of humor, she added, "Who does your hair?"
"It's not easy, it's not easy," Mrs. Clinton replied slowly. "I couldn't do it if I did not passionately believe it was the right thing to do. It's very personal to me."
At this point Mrs. Clinton's voice softened and lowered to a near-hush, and she spoke more haltingly.
"I have so many ideas for this country, I just don't want to see us fall backwards," she said, her eyes visibly wet, as a row of news photographers began snapping away to capture the moment. "It's about our country, it's about our kids' futures."
"Some of us are right some of us are wrong," she continued, firming up a bit -- and sounding, some reporters felt, either angry or resentful about Senator Barack Obama. "Some of us are ready, and some of us are not. Some of us know what we'll do on day one and some of us don't."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801080003
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/01/07/VI2008010701688.html
I like it better than I have heard from her.