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The 82nd Rainforest Thread ~

 
 
danon5
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 02:54 pm
Hi brendalee - always loved your music Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Glad to see you helping to save a tree a day.

My herd's clicked - another tree is smiling as the dozer passes it by. Very Happy
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 05:41 pm
Miracle of miracles!!!

My furschugginer computer allowed me to get online tonight, something which happens exceedingly rarely. I use it mostly as a word processor now and to play solitaire. Smile When I need to check my e-mail, I just go down to the local Kinko's and pay .25 cents/minute to get online.

Just wanted to take this unexpected opportunity to thank Danon from the bottom of my pitty-patty heart for clicking for me lo these many months. You're a brick, Dan. Thankee indeed.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 07:11 pm
Merry Andrew wrote:
Miracle of miracles!!!

My furschugginer computer allowed me to get online tonight, something which happens exceedingly rarely. I use it mostly as a word processor now and to play solitaire. Smile When I need to check my e-mail, I just go down to the local Kinko's and pay .25 cents/minute to get online.

Just wanted to take this unexpected opportunity to thank Danon from the bottom of my pitty-patty heart for clicking for me lo these many months. You're a brick, Dan. Thankee indeed.

Merry! Glad to see that you're around!
Teeny! :wink:
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2008 09:40 am
Merry-of-the-Andrews, welcome back! Very Happy








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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2008 11:18 am
Stradee wrote:
Merry-of-the-Andrews, welcome back! Very Happy








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Thanks for the link! I'm all clicked for Saturday! Cool
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danon5
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2008 11:30 am
Hi Merry Andrew - don't give it a thought. It just gives me another chance to save a tree. My pleasure.

A great Saturday hello to all. Have a nice weekend.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2008 05:41 pm
brendalee and Merry Andrew on the same thread? my world's getting happier and happier Very Happy

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I mixed the environmentally unfriendly and friendly today - took a ferry over to Wolfe Island - and watched the start of a poker run - gotta admit I love those big noisy gas-guzzling boats (one powered by helicopter turbines !!!) Embarrassed

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The WildClickers have supported 2,909,662.7 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 214,787.3 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 67,661.0 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,627,214.5 square feet.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 9 Aug, 2008 05:46 pm
Ontario's largest wind turbine farm is slated to 'grow' on Wolfe Island. We drove past its location this afternoon.

http://www.canhydro.com/projects/wolfeislandwind/faq.htm

http://www.lefttwistinginthewind.com/images/wiont.jpg


lotsa interesting cows on the island. I'm going to have to look up some of the varieties.

Wolfe Island was once famous locally as one of the cheese makers made cheddar that was sent to the Royal Family in England
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Sun 10 Aug, 2008 06:42 am
Cool Happy Sunday. everyone! All clicked! Cool
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 10 Aug, 2008 07:25 am
Clicked here. Nice morning storm. Probably a remnant of some of that Texas rain.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Sun 10 Aug, 2008 11:43 am
Teeny, yur welcome Smile

Beth, cool info and link.

Good day all ~


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danon5
 
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Reply Sun 10 Aug, 2008 05:01 pm
All clicked this Sunday.

Very Happy Very Happy
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alex240101
 
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Reply Sun 10 Aug, 2008 05:18 pm
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 10 Aug, 2008 09:04 pm
The WildClickers have supported 2,909,833.0 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 214,839.1 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 67,661.0 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,627,332.9 square feet.

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we're back in Tranna after four days down at the other end of the lake. this morning before we left we went and watched some of the CORK trials. there were literally hundreds of sailboats out on the lake. lovely.
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danon5
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 09:59 am
alex, That sounds like a great pledge - thanks for sharing.

ehBeth, I bet that was beautiful to watch. You should hitch a ride.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 12:44 pm
Very cool, Alex

Beth, hope your're taking photos of your trip. Smile

Good day all ~


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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 03:08 pm
Hi Wildclickers.

Changes are afoot at Able2Know.

Take a look at the 'change' threads started by Craven de Kere

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=10

In particular - be sure to save your avatar on your hard drive so you'll be able to access it once the new site is ready for you to re-install it.

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I took lots Shocked of pictures down in Eastern Ontario - need to download/upload them.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 11 Aug, 2008 04:09 pm
The Wildclickers have supported 2,910,003.4 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 214,891.0 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 67,668.4 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,627,444.0 square feet.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 06:01 am
Thanks for the heads up, ehBeth re: change threads. I will go read them. But meanwhile, all

BEWARE!!




Bush wants some endangered species rules extinct

By DINA CAPPIELLO1 hour, 35 minutes ago

Just months before President Bush leaves office, his administration is antagonizing environmentalists by proposing changes that would allow federal agencies to decide for themselves whether subdivisions, dams, highways and other projects have the potential to harm endangered animals and plants.

The proposal, first reported by The Associated Press, would cut out the advice of government scientists who have been weighing in on such decisions for 35 years. Agencies also could not consider a project's contribution to global warming in their analysis.

Reaction was swift from Democrats and environmental groups.

The chairman of the House committee that oversees the Interior Department, Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., said he was "deeply troubled." Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., head of the Senate's environment committee, said Bush's plan was illegal. Environmentalists complained the proposals would gut protections for endangered animals and plants.

"This proposed rule ... gives federal agencies an unacceptable degree of discretion to decide whether or not to comply with the Endangered Species Act," Rahall said.

Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne defended the revisions, saying they were needed to ensure that the Endangered Species Act would not be used as a "back door" to regulate the gases blamed for global warming.

If approved, the changes would represent the biggest overhaul of endangered species regulations since 1986 and accomplish through rules what conservative Republicans have been unable to achieve in Congress: ending some environmental reviews that developers and other federal agencies blame for delays and cost increases on many projects.

In May, the polar bear became the first species declared as threatened because of climate change. Warming temperatures are expected to melt the sea ice the bear depends on for survival.

"We need to focus our efforts where they will do the most good," Kempthorne said in a news conference arranged hastily after the AP reported details of the proposal. "It is important to use our time and resources to protect the most vulnerable species. It is not possible to draw a link between greenhouse gas emissions and distant observations of impacts on species."

The rule changes unveiled Monday would apply to any project a federal agency would fund, build or authorize that the agency itself determines is unlikely to harm endangered wildlife and their habitat. Government wildlife experts currently participate in tens of thousands of such reviews each year.

The revisions also would limit which effects can be considered harmful and set a 60-day deadline for wildlife experts to evaluate a project when they are asked to become involved. If no decision is made within 60 days, the project can move ahead.

"If adopted, these changes would seriously weaken the safety net of habitat protections that we have relied upon to protect and recover endangered fish, wildlife and plants for the past 35 years," said John Kostyack, executive director of the National Wildlife Federation's Wildlife Conservation and Global Warming initiative.

Under current law, federal agencies must consult with experts at the Fish and Wildlife Service or the National Marine Fisheries Service to determine whether a project is likely to jeopardize any endangered species or to damage habitat, even if no harm seems likely. This initial review usually results in accommodations that better protect the 1,353 animals and plants in the U.S. listed as threatened or endangered and determines whether a more formal analysis is warranted.

The new rules were expected to be formally proposed in the next couple of days, officials said. They would be subject to a 30-day public comment period before being finalized by the Interior and Commerce departments. That would give the administration enough time to impose the rules before November's presidential election. A new administration could freeze any pending regulations or reverse them, a process that could take months. Congress could also overturn the rules through legislation, but that could take even longer.

Between 1998 and 2002, the Fish and Wildlife Service conducted 300,000 consultations. The National Marine Fisheries Service, which evaluates projects affecting marine species, conducts about 1,300 reviews each year.

Some federal agencies and private developers say that process has killed or delayed some worthwhile projects.

"Over the years, the Endangered Species Act has become a regulatory nightmare that kills or stalls even the most well-crafted land-use projects," said Rob Rivett, president of the Pacific Legal Foundation, a group that supports property rights and limited government. "The economy suffers, people suffer, rational environmental planning suffers. Some careful streamlining is long overdue."
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 12 Aug, 2008 01:14 pm
What gwb won't do for his oil loyalists. Evil or Very Mad

What he's attemping is illegal - federal agencies don't have the power alone deciding wheather projects will impact habitat - especially the gwb owned DOI.

Congress will have its say on the matter of gwb granting more land and national forests to developers and oversees interests.

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Today, Mz Bella slated for a vet visit. Preparations made {carrier, favorite blanket, treats} and Stradee explaining to Bella why she was seeing the vet. Right?

All went well - Bella half/way in the carrier...

Balistic kitty bolted -

Stradee received goughes when Mz Bella said "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING"!!!!!!!!!! Shocked

end of vet visit

Sooooooooo, ran errands, stopped at a shoe store and got two pair of shoes and a purse for $33.00. Way less exensive than what the vet will charge for seeing Taz - Strads wounds are healing nicely.

Another vet appnt Friday. Mz Bella will be transported via Kennel Carrier.




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