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The 82nd Rainforest Thread ~

 
 
teenyboone
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 04:05 pm
I wouldn't doubt it! Cool
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 04:08 pm
teenyboone wrote:
I wouldn't doubt it! Cool

I forgot; I'm all clicked, too! :wink:
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 06:02 pm
The solo cat has clicked also. Maybe some day I will get back to being a herd. But I will bring something to this table in a minute.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 06:09 pm
Make sure you read the last sentence.

Scientists cheer gorilla find, but warn of threats

By BEN McCONVILLE, Associated Press WriterTue Aug 5, 4:29 PM ET

Can there be more lurking in the mist? Despite a startling find announced Tuesday that doubled the estimated number of western lowland gorillas in central Africa, scientists warned that hundreds of primate species remain in danger of extinction.

A census by the Wildlife Conservation Society raised the estimate for gorillas in the Congo jungle from between 50,000 and 100,000 to around 200,000, substantially changing the picture of a great ape population thought devastated by the Ebola virus, hunting and deforestation.

While the news was well received, scientists gathered at the 22nd International Primatological Society Congress in Edinburgh warned against celebrating too soon.

"If verified, the discovery of these new populations of gorilla are hugely significant for our work as conservationists, but we must not be distracted from the very real and present danger these gorillas are in from man and Ebola," said John Oates, emeritus professor of primatology at Hunter College in New York.

Oates said that while the news was good for the iconic great apes made famous by Dian Fossey in "Gorillas in the Mist," many lesser known primates are in deepening peril.

A report released Tuesday by the International Union for Conservation of Nature and other groups warned that nearly half of the world's 634 species and subspecies of primates are threatened with extinction due to human activity.

The figures were particularly grim in Asia, where more than 70 percent of primates were on the union's "Red List" of vulnerable or endangered species.

"There is a danger that we concentrate on the more famous species," Oates said. "What about the other species that we've identified as in danger? There are so many that are on the brink of extinction."

Among them is the highland gibbon, which counts just 19 known individuals. The review warned it will be tough battle to save that Asian primate from extinction.

Simon Stuart, with Conservation International, which provided data for the review, said primate populations are shrinking in Asia due to hunting and habitat destruction ?- some linked to the booming biofuel industry.

"In Malaysia, Sumatra and Borneo the big problem is destruction of forests to make way for palm oil and biofuels. Ironically, with biofuels, something that is nominally associated with helping the environment can have harmful unintentional consequences," Stuart said.

Scientists working in the region described an uphill struggle to save endangered animals.

Vicky Melfi, from the British-based Whitley Wildlife Conservation Trust, said the macaque population had plummeted on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi, where she spent three months as part of a population count.

"In 1980 the population density (of macaques) was as much as 300 individuals per square kilometer. In 10 years this had decreased to between 60 to 20 individuals per square kilometer," she said.

"Imagine the human population of the world reduced to that of one small town. That's what we are talking about here," Melfi added.

Oates, the New York-based primatologist, said scientists often stumble on new species, but he played down the probability of finding large new hidden primate populations such as the one identified in Congo by the Wildlife Conservation Society, which is based at the Bronx Zoo in New York.

"The habitats in which they live are largely impenetrable and we constantly find new species," Oates said. "Having said that, this (the western lowland gorillas) remains a unique find. I don't know if we'll ever find something on this scale again."

Jillian Miller, executive director of the Gorilla Organization, an international conservation group, wasn't so sure.

"I think the lesson for conservationists today is that, yes, the world is full of surprises. There's a lot of uncharted territory there in central Africa, there may be other populations," she said in an interview with CNN.

But while she called the Congo find "the best news we've ever had," Miller also warned of the threats facing primates, saying governments and conservation groups must work together to protect the animals. "We must not become complacent," she said.

Asked how such a huge population of gorillas could go unnoticed by scientists, Miller said: "We're talking about the Congo Basin rainforest here. It is vast, it is huge, it's second only to the Amazon. And it's impenetrable."

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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 06:10 pm
Well, imagine a silverback and some lovelies in tall grass.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 07:45 pm
http://nphotos/Wildlife-Conservation-Society-western-lowland-gorilla-silverback-western-lowland-gorillas/photo//080805/480/9f7dfb4e2aaa4d329534bcfb0f6fe174//s:/ap/20080805/ap_on_re_eu/britain_primates_in_peril;_ylt=AqzmF6so1pgTRO.qELMvORtbbBAF
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 07:45 pm
That didn't work either.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 11:05 pm
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44893000/gif/_44893363_world2_primates466.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7541192.stm






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teenyboone
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 02:41 am

All clicked very early! :wink:
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danon5
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 09:12 am
Me clicked.

I saw the news segment on TV re the gorillas - I hope they stay out of sight of humans.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 07:49 pm
The WildClickers have supported 2,909,180.2 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 214,639.2 square feet.
You have supported: (0.0)
Your 300 friends have supported: (214,639.2)

American Prairie habitat supported: 67,615.4 square feet.
You have supported: (16,926.2)
Your 300 friends have supported: (50,689.1)

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,626,925.7 square feet.
You have supported: (188,053.2)
Your 300 friends have supported: (2,438,872.5)

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Danon - how many acres are we at now?

http://www.chron.com/photos/2008/07/31/12332683/260xStory.jpg
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danon5
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 12:42 pm
We Wildclickers have clicked for SIXTY-SIX POINT SEVEN EIGHT acres. Almost 67 acres.

Great clicking folks.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 03:44 pm
Dang! Computer/network/technology/@#&*grrrrrrrrrrrr


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From Wilderness 2008 newsletter...

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Ranchers and Conservationists Forge Deal to Retire Livestock Grazing and Protect "Noah's Botanical Ark"
Featured Wilderness
August 2008 Newsletter >>
August 4th, 2008
Featured Wilderness

Jenny's Creek; © Pepper TrailThousands of years before white settlers seeking the Frontier built their cabins here, the people of the Klamath, Modoc, and Shasta tribes enjoyed the abundance and solitude granted them by a landscape like no other on Earth.

Soda Mountain rises in southern Oregon near the California border at the confluence of several distinct eco-regions. It is the hinge-point where the volcanic Cascade Range, ancient Klamath Mountains, towering Siskiyou Mountains, and the high desert basalt flows of eastern Oregon all converge to connect one of the most botanically diverse coniferous ecosystems in the world.

The area, which has been called a "botanical Noah's Ark" is home to a spectacular variety of species of plants and animals whose survival in this region depends upon its continued ecological integrity. Thriving in this remarkable area are dozens of species of flowering plants that occur nowhere else on Earth. The diversity of plant life makes it a North American hot spot for butterfly populations?-at last count more than 115 species. In the Klamath-Siskiyou eco-region, which funnels its genetic diversity through Soda Mountain, more than three-quarters of all known species of coniferous trees, including the last major tree species identified in the United States, are found. But to think of the landscape as a classic westside northwest forest would be a mistake.

The diversity of the landscape includes oak savannas, ponderosa pine parkland, sub-alpine meadows, fescue grasslands, and desert sagebrush, to name just a few. The area supports healthy populations of Roosevelt elk, cougars, black bears, golden and bald eagles, goshawks and falcons roaming and soaring its lands and skies. In all, more than 200 species of bird can be found perching in, and swooping around, the varied forests and grasslands.

In June 2000, the Clinton administration designated 53,000 acres of federal land in the area, including Soda Mountain, as the Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument, to protect this extraordinary biological reserve. That designation prevents mineral exploitation and most logging. However, livestock grazing and off-road vehicles still threaten the area.

To resolve some of these outstanding management issues, local conservation leader Dave Willis, head of the Soda Mountain Wilderness Council, and Andy Kerr, founder of the National Public Lands Grazing Campaign, began discussions with local ranchers. After more than four years of hard work, the group was able to reach agreement on a proposal to protect more than 23,000 backcountry acres of the most wild and botanically diverse monument lands as wilderness. The agreement would also compensate local ranchers with private funding to permanently retire public lands grazing privileges in the wilderness proposal, throughout the monument, and outside the monument boundaries, as well.

Their proposal is backed by Senators Gordon Smith (R) and Ron Wyden (D), as well as local elected officials, and has been approved by the Senate's Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. Protecting the outstanding resource values of the Soda Mountain area and the Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument now awaits action by the full Senate.



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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 07:48 pm
s'cool and s'cool

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clicking from the north shore of Lake Ontario - eastern division Very Happy
we've travelled down to visit the hamburgers and hopefully mab (who helped identify a duck on another thread)

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The WildClickers have supported 2,909,276.5 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 214,683.6 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 67,615.4 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,626,977.5 square feet.

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the sheep dog trials are on ... watched a bit tonight, will try to catch more on the weekend ... love dogs with jobs
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 04:00 am
Soda Mountain. Sounds grand. And with the biological diversity similar to that of the southerrn Appalachians. Such hard work paid off.
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brendalee
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 04:03 am
page stamp want to read more but got to go.
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 04:05 am
NATURE VERSUS NURTURE REVISITED

EVOLUTION: Taking the Long View
Laura M. Zahn

It can be difficult to establish the phylogeny of microorganisms because they are composed of genes that have moved vertically (via inheritance) or horizontally (via lateral transfer mechanisms such as conjugation) or both. Dagan et al. have applied a network analysis approach to estimate the cumulative impact of lateral gene transfer in the genomes of 181 fully sequenced prokaryotes. By examining the presence or absence of all genes and by tracing the evolutionary history of these genes on the basis of genome size, they were able to calculate the rate of lateral gene transfer and have concluded that approximately 80% of the genes in each genome appear to have been involved in lateral transfer at some point in their history. Hence, well-defined phylogenetic trees, which describe genetic relationships accurately on short-term evolutionary time scales, become rather less clearly delineated when looked at over very long time periods. -- LMZ

Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 105, 10039 (2008).
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Stradee
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 11:04 am
Dan, Soda/Cascade-Siskiyou mountain range stunning!

sue, interesting science.

Beth, howdy to the Hamburgers

Welcome to the rainforest thread, brendalee.

Good clicking WildClickers! Sixty Seven Acres!!!!!!!!!!






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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 12:37 pm
Hi brendalee - great to see you here!

The WildClickers have supported 2,909,402.3 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 214,735.4 square feet.

American Prairie habitat supported: 67,622.8 square feet.

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,627,044.1 square feet.
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Fri 8 Aug, 2008 01:53 pm
Whoops I'm all clicked! Cool
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