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The 82nd Rainforest Thread ~

 
 
danon5
 
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Reply Sun 3 Feb, 2008 11:09 pm
That's one cute Owl... Shocked

Thanks for the pic....... Very Happy

Stradee,, I hope the today's snow didn't cover you - I do follow the WX reports in your area.

All clicked - another tree smiling.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 04:26 am
Dan, snow disappeared quickly, then dense thick fog.

Today, cold with clear skies. Weather patterns' trippy...

Cute pic, Beth.

Yo Teeny :wink:


http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 06:02 am
Stradee wrote:
Dan, snow disappeared quickly, then dense thick fog.

Today, cold with clear skies. Weather patterns' trippy...

Cute pic, Beth.

Yo Teeny :wink:


http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674


I'm here, early and all clicked, for the day! :wink:
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 06:17 pm
Quite nice weather day. Smile

Sunshine and a Happy Birthday to my eldest sib celebrating her 67th year of life on the planet... Shocked Very Happy




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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 09:23 pm
Clicking late after dance class.

spin
twirl
shimmy
shimmy
spin

You and your 300 friends have supported 2,857,187.0 square feet! 65.589 acres

I'm looking forward to seeing these guys again in spring. Not just yet, but in spring.

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ethology/behavi19.jpg
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danon5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Feb, 2008 10:48 pm
A Red Winged Black Bird - - - !!!

There were many here in NE TX when I was a youngster - but, none now. No Meadowlarks - no Whippoorwills. Life just isn't the same around here after 54 years. ((Read my signature))

One more tree from around the world's Rain Forests is smiling.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


"Change is the only unchangeable thing in existence."
danon5
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danon5
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 09:38 am
Early to click this day. Marn'n all - Have a Nice Day Very Happy Very Happy
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 05:31 pm
Drunk I Know You Mardi Gras! Drunk

Cool All Clicked, All Voted and it's time for a Hurricane !Cool
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 05:54 pm
You and your 300 friends have supported 2,857,702.1 square feet!

65.601 acres

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clicking before it snows again

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http://canadianbiodiversity.mcgill.ca/data/sppphotos/mammals/chipmunk.jpg
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 5 Feb, 2008 07:43 pm
All Voted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy




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danon5
 
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Reply Wed 6 Feb, 2008 07:54 am
All clicked for yet another smiling tree - - - Very Happy

We Wildclickers are saving lots of trees - worldwide.

It's a good thing.

Have a great day.
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Stradee
 
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Reply Wed 6 Feb, 2008 08:00 pm
Howdy wildclickers

No work for three days beginning tomorrow! Very Happy

Have a good evening ya all ~


http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=583091674
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 6 Feb, 2008 10:25 pm
You and your 300 friends have supported 2,858,076.7 square feet!

Marine Wetlands habitat supported: 197,881.1 square feet.
You have supported: (0.0)
Your 300 friends have supported: (197,881.1)

American Prairie habitat supported: 63,439.9 square feet.
You have supported: (15,427.8)
Your 300 friends have supported: (48,012.2)

Rainforest habitat supported: 2,596,755.7 square feet.
You have supported: (185,237.2)
Your 300 friends have supported: (2,411,518.5)

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65.611 acres
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Stradee
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 09:17 am
Good earthturn and Happy Chinese New Year Wildclickers


http://www.google.com/logos/lunarnewyear08.gif



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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 06:47 pm
Gung Hai Fa Choy!

You and your 300 friends have supported 2,858,334.2 square feet!

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65.614 acres

http://www.theasiatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gong_xi_fa_cai_2k6_by_jotter.jpg
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danon5
 
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Reply Thu 7 Feb, 2008 10:02 pm
That's all very good food - - -

but, my very favorite Asian food is Korean. Very Happy Very Happy

Mmmmmm - Gooooood. Very Happy
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 07:20 am
All Asian food is delicious.

ENVIRONMENT: The Debt of Nations
Caroline Ash

Tracking the worldwide depletion of ecosystem resources is a complex international problem. Srinivasan et al. have used a simplified accounting framework to link populations who experience ecological damage to those who cause it. The largest and most blatant imbalance is the debt we (high-income countries) owe to low-income countries because of climate change. On a per capita basis, people in high-income countries are responsible for almost six times more greenhouse gas emissions than their low-income counterparts. Included in the tally is, for instance, the luxury debt accrued by high-income consumers of farmed shrimp; this demand encourages the destruction of coastal mangrove trees to clear the way for shrimp ponds. The resulting loss of storm protection is increasing the risk to adjacent cities as sea levels rise and coral reefs collapse (see also Grimm et al., Review, p. 756). Similarly, middle-and high-income countries consume most of the world's fish; nevertheless, several food-deficient African countries charge only modest access fees for the mining of their rich offshore fisheries. Despite the difficulties of measurement and the need to simplify, this analysis raises provocative questions about the division of responsibilities for environmental harm. -- CA

Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 105, 10.1073/pnas.0709562104 (2008).
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 07:27 am
The values of trees in groupings, forests, is so hard to understand?

Studies Say Clearing Land for Biofuels Will Aid Warming

By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 8, 2008; A05

Clearing land to produce biofuels such as ethanol will do more to exacerbate global warming than using gasoline or other fossil fuels, two scientific studies show.

The independent analyses, which will be published today in the journal Science, could force policymakers in the United States and Europe to reevaluate incentives they have adopted to spur production of ethanol-based fuels. President Bush and many members of Congress have touted expanding biofuel use as an integral element of the nation's battle against climate change, but these studies suggest that this strategy will damage the planet rather than help protect it.

One study -- written by a group of researchers from Princeton University, Woods Hole Research Center and Iowa State University along with an agriculture consultant -- concluded that over 30 years, use of traditional corn-based ethanol would produce twice as much greenhouse gas emissions as regular gasoline. Another analysis, written by a Nature Conservancy scientist along with University of Minnesota researchers, found that converting rainforests, peatlands, savannas or grasslands in Southeast Asia and Latin America to produce biofuels will increase global warming pollution for decades, if not centuries.

Tim Searchinger, who conducts research at Princeton and the D.C-based German Marshall Fund of the United States, said the research he and his colleagues did is the first to reveal the hidden environmental cost of producing biofuels.

"The land we're likely to plow up is the land that we've had taking up carbon for decades," said Searchinger, the lead author. Estimating that it would take 167 years before biofuel would stop contributing to climate change, he added, "We can't get to a result, no matter how heroically we make assumptions on behalf of corn ethanol, where it will actually generate greenhouse-gas benefits."

Researchers said the findings applied to other forms of ethanol-based fuel as well, at emissions rates that varied depending on the nature of the land being converted and the crop being grown on it, with sugar cane ranking as the most efficient. The results of the studies are significant because industrialized countries are pushing so aggressively to boost biofuel production as an alternative to gasoline. The recently passed energy bill mandated the production of 36 billion gallons of biofuels annually by 2022, compared with about 7.5 billion gallons today. Just last month, the European Union's Transport Ministry proposed a directive calling on member countries to power 10 percent of their transportation with biofuels.

The studies emphasized the time it would take to pay back the "carbon debt" created by clearing land to grow biofuel crops, in the words of Joe Fargione, central region science director for the Nature Conservancy, but biofuel industry officials -- as well as administration and congressional officials -- said it is unfair to judge ethanol in its current form, because the industry continues to make technological advances.

"This is a good way of showing where we are, not where we're going to be," said Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), who is chairman of a House global warming panel and who helped write the energy legislation. Noting that the measure set benchmarks requiring any new ethanol plants to produce a fuel that is 20 percent more efficient than gasoline, and even more stringent standards for advanced biofuels, he added, "Once you set the standard, then it's going to drive where the investment is made, where the breakthroughs are."

James L. Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, said he remains convinced that many biofuels produce substantial environmental benefits.

"Like any issue, there are ways to do it right and there are ways to do things wrong, and the same is the case to biofuels," he said. "We move as rapidly as we can to second-generation [biofuels] because those offer the best opportunity for a low environmental profile."

Brent Erickson, executive vice president of the Biotechnology Industry Organization's industrial and environmental section, said using renewable resources always made sense in the long run, compared with gasoline and diesel fuel.

"It makes no sense to continue burning fossil carbon, which is essentially carbon that has already been sequestered for millions of years in the Earth's crust, and which when burned releases carbon dioxide and also creates a carbon debt that can never be paid back," he said. "It is much more logical to produce biofuels that recycle carbon, even if a short-term carbon debt is created. Even if it's 167 years, you're still better off than burning oil that can never be paid off."

But an array of senior scientists who work on climate change, including Missouri Botanical Society President Peter H. Raven and William H. Schlesinger, president of the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies, sent a letter to Bush and congressional leaders yesterday urging them to reconsider their energy policies in light of the new studies.

"While politicians in the U.S. and Europe have tried to craft policies dictating that new biofuels will not come at the expense of clearing land, the papers show that sometimes land conversion is often an indirect result of this expansion," the 10 scientists wrote. "There is an urgent need for policy that ensures biofuels are not produced on productive forest, grassland or cropland."

Alex Farrell, a professor with Berkeley's Energy and Resources Group who concluded in 2006 that biofuels produce a net environmental benefit, said the paper by Searchinger and his colleagues changed his mind.

"The qualitative result that biofuel produced on fertile land has higher greenhouse gas emissions than fossil fuels is almost certainly true, even if it's only by a certain amount," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "But we can make better biofuels. The right thing to do is to give the biofuel industry the incentives and support to move to a more sustainable production method."

One of the biggest tests will come when the Environmental Protection Agency issues its analysis of the climate impact of biofuels, which according to the energy bill must include "direct emissions and significant indirect emissions such as significant emissions from land use changes."

Rep. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.), a member of the House Energy Committee, said policymakers would have to rely on scientists to help them sort out such questions.

"Our challenge really is to find out a way to quantify these things, so when you adopt a policy, you factor in these land use issues," Inslee said, adding that the new findings point out that "we ought to be open to new science, but we also have to continue with upward leaps in biofuels."
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 08:10 am
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photos/best-pod-january-08/boreal-forest-arctic-circle_pod_image.html


Boreal forest and pond setting within Arctic circle.
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 8 Feb, 2008 08:11 am
Maybe one of you crackerjack image people can figure it out, or go to the site to see it. Extremely beautiful.
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