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How to pronounce bow in "bow legs"

 
 
Chai
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 04:53 pm
I'm thinking that's it.

When I lived in Jersey, and for quite some time after that, I don't think I could have heard the difference.

Like hearing the difference between "b" and "v" in Spanish. Unless you have distanced yourself aurally, it's difficult to hear the difference.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 06:01 pm
Chai wrote:
I'm thinking that's it.

When I lived in Jersey, and for quite some time after that, I don't think I could have heard the difference.

Like hearing the difference between "b" and "v" in Spanish. Unless you have distanced yourself aurally, it's difficult to hear the difference.



Or.....mebbe the Can just has a tin ear?????????


:wink:
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 06:56 pm
I don't notice any difference in the sounds of mole and bowl and tow and bow and roe etc... They are all a long O sound Smile

Sorry deb - I think it's your accent. Or maybe it's mine!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 06:58 pm
Mame wrote:
I don't notice any difference in the sounds of mole and bowl and tow and bow and roe etc... They are all a long O sound Smile

Sorry deb - I think it's your accent. Or maybe it's mine!



Have you listened to caribou's links?
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 07:25 pm
Mame wrote:
I don't notice any difference in the sounds of mole and bowl and tow and bow and roe etc... They are all a long O sound Smile

Sorry deb - I think it's your accent. Or maybe it's mine!


Same here. No dipthongs, thanks. Speak properly. Smile
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:14 pm
McTag wrote:
No dipthongs, thanks.

how about regular old thongs?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:30 pm
Region Philbis wrote:
McTag wrote:
No dipthongs, thanks.

how about regular old thongs?



Bad germ.


Have you folk saying there is no difference listened to caribou's links?


If you have, and you can't hear the difference, then we are looking at a problem you have with distinguishing the two sounds.

Otherwise, I think we may be looking at accent differences.


I'd be surprised if I couldn't get you to hear the difference if this place was wired for sound, though.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:34 pm
big wabbit satellite ears can hear these subtle differences...
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:35 pm
I couldn't open the links, unfortunately.

And knock-kneed is a word:

ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms

Adj. 1. knock-kneed - having the knees abnormally close together and the ankles wide apart
unfit - not in good physical or mental condition; out of condition; "fat and very unfit"; "certified as unfit for army service"; "drunk and unfit for service"
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:38 pm
Region Philbis wrote:
big wabbit satellite ears can hear these subtle differences...


Actually, I suffer from significant deafness.


But, that affects consonants more than vowels in my case. Eg I can find it very hard to distinguish an initial "f" from an initial; "s".


I knew people with perfect hearing who couldn't distinguish different vowel sounds when we had to learn to transcribe phonetically.....often it seemed as though their eyes...ie the spelling...did not allow them to hear what was actually being said.

Mebbe learning German helped?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 08:41 pm
Mame wrote:
I couldn't open the links, unfortunately.

And knock-kneed is a word:

ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms

Adj. 1. knock-kneed - having the knees abnormally close together and the ankles wide apart
unfit - not in good physical or mental condition; out of condition; "fat and very unfit"; "certified as unfit for army service"; "drunk and unfit for service"


Did someone say it wasn't a word?
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Mame
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 09:04 pm
dlowan wrote:


Knees would only be knocked if they were to strike a table leg or such.


(I knocked my knee on the table leg, adding to my woe, since, as you know, my legs are bow.......and, as though me to tease were the high Pyrenees of some deity's ease, I have knock knees.)

Quote:


Yes, you seemed unaware of the other usage of "knock-kneed" so I merely provided you with a definition.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 09:25 pm
Mame wrote:
dlowan wrote:


Knees would only be knocked if they were to strike a table leg or such.


(I knocked my knee on the table leg, adding to my woe, since, as you know, my legs are bow.......and, as though me to tease were the high Pyrenees of some deity's ease, I have knock knees.)

Quote:


Yes, you seemed unaware of the other usage of "knock-kneed" so I merely provided you with a definition.



Lol!!! I was just kidding!
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 09:49 pm
How does one pronounce "ssssssh", the noise one makes when trying to quiet an angry horde.

Is the third s silent?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 09:51 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
How does one pronounce "ssssssh", the noise one makes when trying to quiet an angry horde.

Is the third s silent?



All the esses, except the first, are silent.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 09:52 pm
Thank you. Wait! Why not the second s?
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 08:52 am
dlowan wrote:
Region Philbis wrote:
big wabbit satellite ears can hear these subtle differences...


Actually, I suffer from significant deafness.



Me too, wabbit, I'm a bit mutton. Pardon?
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Chai
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 11:38 am
Mame wrote:
I don't notice any difference in the sounds of mole and bowl and tow and bow and roe etc... They are all a long O sound Smile

Sorry deb - I think it's your accent. Or maybe it's mine!


It's subtle....

I just practiced saying mole and tow, elongating the "o" and observing how my mouth was making the 2 sounds.

With mole, my tongue is postioned in the bottom of my mouth. The tip and sides of my tongue near the tip are touch my mouth well below the tooth line. The sides of my tongue behind the tip are level with the tooth/gumline of my back molars.

When I say tow, my tongue is higher. The tip is right at the bottom of my tooth/gum line behind my front bottom teeth. In addition, the sides of my tongue are level with the sides of my molars.

There's a cereal named "Malto Meal"

http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Search/214271bs.jpg

When I say Malto my tongue kinda does the same thing with the "malt" part....except with with the word malt my mouth is opened a little wider, and my tongue is flattened more.

Saying malt and mole....with mole, the tongue is not flattened, more tubular, and the mouth is shaped more like an "O"....a little like you're getting ready to give your favorite aunt a kiss.

Again, in the NE accent I grew up with...I'd have said the word "malt" with the even more extreme kissy shape to my mouth when saying "mole".

The word "mole" would have extended my lips out to kiss my aunt, but this a steady "oooo" sound, like in "oooooom".....Malt would sound like I was also trying to make the "mwah" kissing sound too.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 12:18 pm
Well I think you're doing it wrong.

Smile
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Diane
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 12:34 pm
Chai, what a lot of excercise. Your post made me think of something a proper, 64 year old woman should not be thinking,(but most of us do anyway).

I won't mention my thought in detail, but I truly believe the men in your life are exceptionally happy... Embarrassed
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