Another question for the right and left

The programs that I listed were enacted from 1958 to 1994. The Democrats had a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives in every one of these years and the Democrats had a majority in the U.S. Senate for each of these years except 1981 to 1987. And a Democrat was in the White House from 1961 to 1969, 1977 to 1981 and 1993 to 1994. These were programs that were created by liberals and funded by liberals (since all budget appropriations must originate in the U.S. House of Representatives which had a liberal majority).

Furthermore, when it came to spending money, Ronald Reagan was a liberal.

flaja wrote:

The programs that I listed were enacted from 1958 to 1994. The Democrats had a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives in every one of these years and the Democrats had a majority in the U.S. Senate for each of these years except 1981 to 1987. And a Democrat was in the White House from 1961 to 1969, 1977 to 1981 and 1993 to 1994. These were programs that were created by liberals and funded by liberals (since all budget appropriations must originate in the U.S. House of Representatives which had a liberal majority).

Or, in other words, every program that you don't like is a liberal program, no matter who passed it or who signed it.

flaja wrote:

Furthermore, when it came to spending money, Ronald Reagan was a liberal.

Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

joefromchicago wrote:

flaja wrote:

The programs that I listed were enacted from 1958 to 1994. The Democrats had a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives in every one of these years and the Democrats had a majority in the U.S. Senate for each of these years except 1981 to 1987. And a Democrat was in the White House from 1961 to 1969, 1977 to 1981 and 1993 to 1994. These were programs that were created by liberals and funded by liberals (since all budget appropriations must originate in the U.S. House of Representatives which had a liberal majority).

Or, in other words, every program that you don't like is a liberal program, no matter who passed it or who signed it.

flaja wrote:

Furthermore, when it came to spending money, Ronald Reagan was a liberal.

Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

What do you consider to be a liberal?

joefromchicago wrote:

Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

What do you consider to be a liberal?

flaja wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

flaja wrote:

The programs that I listed were enacted from 1958 to 1994. The Democrats had a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives in every one of these years and the Democrats had a majority in the U.S. Senate for each of these years except 1981 to 1987. And a Democrat was in the White House from 1961 to 1969, 1977 to 1981 and 1993 to 1994. These were programs that were created by liberals and funded by liberals (since all budget appropriations must originate in the U.S. House of Representatives which had a liberal majority).

Or, in other words, every program that you don't like is a liberal program, no matter who passed it or who signed it.

flaja wrote:

Furthermore, when it came to spending money, Ronald Reagan was a liberal.

Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

What do you consider to be a liberal?

Answering questions with questions is a sure sign of a sophomoric debater. It would be much better for you to answer the question, then to attempt to change the subject to other people's opinions.

Cycloptichorn

Like I said, no legitimate conservative

Since you won't identify any liberals, I must conclude that you don't know what a liberal is and thus wouldn't recognize anyone as being a conservative since you don't know the difference between the two.

only a fool would reject success because it came from the wrong direction.

You seemed to be suggesting that you had some idea of "legitimate conservative" that you were evaluating people/positions against.

ehBeth wrote:

You seemed to be suggesting that you had some idea of "legitimate conservative" that you were evaluating people/positions against.

I see no point in identifying any conservatives.

Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a strong correlation between "legitimate conservatives" and "true Christians".

flaja wrote:

ehBeth wrote:

You seemed to be suggesting that you had some idea of "legitimate conservative" that you were evaluating people/positions against.

I see no point in identifying any conservatives.

Not who - what.

What defines a "legitimate conservative"?

You brought the phrase into the discussion. I am asking you to define "legitimate conservative".

I want the govt to realize that the only power they have is the Constitution of the US, and I want them to abide by it.

joe said...

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Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

I'm not flaja, but I will try and answer.

I am a conservative.
I want the govt to leave me alone, I want the govt to stop spending money like drunken sailors, I want the govt to eliminate the people in DC whose only job is to wander around and tell each other how important they are, I want the govt to eliminate totally the pork and the earmarks from spending.

I want the govt to realize that the only power they have is the Constitution of the US, and I want them to abide by it.

If its not in the Constitution, the federal govt cant do it, no matter what "it" is.

Of course, there are still some poeple on here that will say I'm not a conservative, and thats their right.

mysteryman wrote:

joe said...

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Then I must echo ehBeth and ask: who exactly do you consider to be a conservative?

I'm not flaja, but I will try and answer.

I am a conservative.
I want the govt to leave me alone, I want the govt to stop spending money like drunken sailors, I want the govt to eliminate the people in DC whose only job is to wander around and tell each other how important they are, I want the govt to eliminate totally the pork and the earmarks from spending.

I want the govt to realize that the only power they have is the Constitution of the US, and I want them to abide by it.

If its not in the Constitution, the federal govt cant do it, no matter what "it" is.

Of course, there are still some poeple on here that will say I'm not a conservative, and thats their right.

Sounds pretty libertarian to me, mm.

Abide by whose interpretation of the Constitution?

Sounds pretty libertarian to me, mm.

flaja said...

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Abide by whose interpretation of the Constitution?

What do you mean?
Read the words, they mean exactly what they say.
Anybody with a sixth grade education can read the Constitution and know what it means.