Walter is full of water, but never full of beer. Water is necessary for life, but beer isn't.

c.i.
My brother was a fire control technician aboard Columbus, a missle cruiser. He was also an excellent free-hand artist. I recall one pen and ink drawing he did of two German destroyers riding the rollercoaster of the mountainous waves in the North Sea in winter time. Perhaps Walter was aboard?
Those who served: I would love to hear some of your adventures. What countries did you see? Were the missions succesful?
If it's top secret, why?
Setanta
I just was a navigator on a coastal minesweeper, later the mate on a landincraft. (And actually commanding a tiny one in between.)
The only connection I ever had with destroyers was, when I was photographed with a deestroyer as background(that was a photo for "relation reasons" :wink: - and even worked sometimes pretty well

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Walter, I wish i had my brother's drawing, it was quite good, and i'm certain you'd like it.
That's a great photo. Wonderful!
[I must admit that I only had been at that time two days on a training ship (a tender), but the girls liked that photo very, very muuuuuuuch!]
Walter, that's an amazing photo!! Thanks for posting.
The text on the cap (whatever that is called in English :wink: ) says, btw:
"4th Navy Training Battalion"
The military is such a reliquary of ancient and dusty customs--my brother had one of those "Donald Duck" flat hats, but it was only to be worn in New York City--go figure . . .
i wanna see a pic of setanta in his uniform
"New York, New York it's a wonderful town..."
ehBeth wrote:i wanna see a pic of setanta in his uniform
My seester may have one, i'm not very good at keeping mementos . . .
OK, i sent an e-mail to Fort Sam Houston, Texas, to find out if i can get a copy of a photograph which was taken of me there, when i was at the Medical Field Service School in 1970. I was in my Class C uniform (what eBeth would call "carkeys"), and "gold" rimmed, round glasses, and very, very, very young . . .
My photo is from 1969 :wink:
khakis. pronounced car keys.
that is correct.
did i ever address the original q here? probably not. i thought about it, and voted, and then was going to post, but there was some kind of argument going on. not even a discussion. an argument. pfffffffft.
hobitbob's quote: "I think that it is the duty of an informed citizenry to votre." Sounds to me like an oxymoron........"informed?" ha, ha, ha...... c.i.
Is this quote similar to . . .
[quote]. . . ask not what your country can do for you --ask what you can do for your country."[/quote]
Is this quote similar to Plato, LAWS, XII?
"The servants of the nation are to render their services without any taking of presents, and there shall be no glossing of the practice, nor accepting of the principle that 'A present should be taken for a good deed, though not for an ill.' . . . 'Do no service for a present.'"
IMHO: We the people are the Nation. What we do, we do for ourselves; what we take away, we and the rest of the Nation are the ones who have lost.
Also, Lee Bristol of Bristol-Meyers said, "Service is the rent paid for being here." Cheap at twice the price! :-)