Very good point. I happen to believe the same, which is also not conclusive.
"We have it. The smoking gun. The evidence. The potential weapon of mass destruction we have been looking for as our pretext of invading Iraq.
There's just one problem: it's in North Korea."
--Jon Stewart
PDiddie wrote:"We have it. The smoking gun. The evidence. The potential weapon of mass destruction we have been looking for as our pretext of invading Iraq.
There's just one problem: it's in North Korea."
--Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart is hillarious. Hopefully he's also smart enough to know that we have already found many, many "smoking guns" in Iraq.
PDid, According to many political pundits, they say North Korea has no intention of using nuclear weapons as a weapon, but as a political blackmail. What do you think? c.i.
My understanding, Tres, is that much of Powell's evidence has been discredited (haven't kept count, I admit). I think Stewart may have outgunned Powell...
That's about as dumb as assuming that National Guardsmen on duty don't have ammunition for those rifles they are carrying.
I know you asked someone else's opinion, c.i.
Tartarin wrote:My understanding, Tres, is that much of Powell's evidence has been discredited (haven't kept count, I admit). I think Stewart may have outgunned Powell...
Tart - Who said anything about Powell? How about Blix? How about the UN itself? It seems that nobody aside from some people who refuse to educate themselves on this issue thinks we have not found a smoking gun. The question most people are wrestling with at this point is what to do in light of the smoking guns we have?
"Records from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and a 1994 Senate Banking Committee investigation show that during Reagan's presidency, the United States sold Iraq anthrax, bubonic plague, and botulinum toxin, all supposedly for medical research. Over congressional opposition, Reagan sold Iraq twin-engine Bell "Huey" helicopters, which appear to have been used in his chemical attacks on the Kurds.
The Bush administration's outrage at Saddam's crimes is bogus. If people like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell, and Richard Armitage (all of whom held prominent government positions in the '80s) really cared about the Iraqi people, they wouldn't have helped Saddam brutalize them in the '80s. And, since the US doesn't care about the Iraqi people, our real motivation for war must lay elsewhere--either in a thirst for world domination, or oil, or both."
--Peter Beinart, Crass Act, tnr.com
This is how Bush knows Saddam has WMD - because his daddy sold them to Saddam.
Why won't the "liberal" media report this?
cicerone: I think it would be a real bad idea to call their bluff.
Timber
I liked your quote below so well I wanted to post it again for anyone who missed it
This quote was made by Timber after another of his famous news articles that are a bit more factual and than many on this forum.
Check it out on page 281 this thread.
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Confidently, I figure this search effort will yield more conclusive evidence than have the UNSCOM and UNMOVIC inspections. I would not be surprised to find there is a "Smoking Gun", and that that "Gun" is stamped "Made In France" and is loaded with German ammunition. End Quote
Yes, it's perhaps a bit naughty to point to Germany/France and suggest the US has clean hands in the matter of helping Sadaam get to be the Sadaam we all know and love. And Powell could perhaps bring those invoices to the UN - the ones for anthrax with Sadaam's and Rumsfeld's signatures written with really expensive pens. It would constitute smoking gun variety of proof, I think. Perhaps they were shredded accidentally, which can happen, White House aides often having other things on their minds.
roger, The question is still, who will they use it against? c.i.
Having bullets doesn't necessarily mean it is ever used. c.i.
Roger!!!!! Thank you for your welcome on another thread!
Btw, kindly assume *nothing* concerning ammo; it's a documented fact that when President Reagan was elected and asked for a USN ammo inventory most ships had not enough to even fire their guns ONCE.
Perception - as to your Saddam-related-posts, so, what?? We need the money to feed the Turkish-Israeli axis. Look up President Putin's warning that over a quarter of "Israeli citizens" previously were "Soviet citizens" - anyone else was around when Pollard pleaded guilty??!!!
Policy is whatever suits us - anybody else ante up or stay off the poker game <G>
BLatham, you are a very naughty boy. No pudding for you. How can ye have any pudding ef ye don't ate yer mate ? ! ? ! ?
Blatham is a female praying mantis?
N.B. that was "plebeians" - better yet, plebes <G>
blatham is NOT a female praying mantis, though he has a clear preference for fine underthings washed by hand in the snow-melt fountains of the Al Hambra.
I'll tell ya what, boy--they find you washing yer unmentionables in "the snow-melt fountains of the Al Hambra," they'll throw ya in a padded cell, and leave ya there 'til the Spanish monarchy expires from a lack of candidates.
Which leads as back to Germany>Prussia>Hohenzollern>Bad Ems>spa>fountains = the world is a circle!
