Political Partisan Suppression of Truth

The Bible does not say that Jews were the only people who crucified Jesus Christ, but it says that also the devil crucified him AND those who are insensitive to his message crucify him afresh even today.

nimh wrote:

Ever the drama queen.

I'll accept that...

Royalty and don't forget it. hehe

Perhaps, and this is merely a suggestion, if the topic bothers you, skip it instead of posting such inane crap?

McGentrix wrote:

Perhaps, and this is merely a suggestion, if the topic bothers you, skip it instead of posting such inane crap?

Thats an interesting point, coming from someone who spends 9 posts a day venting his annoyance at how stupid the posts of his liberal fellow-posters are.. If they bother you so much, why dont you just skip them?

The Last Supper

Sometimes all it takes is one picture to fix an image in our minds. Consider our conception of the Last Supper. Few of us, I dare say, can visu­alize that event without thinking of Leonardo da Vinci's painting, completed in 1498. Some churches even stage living tab­leaux with people posing as da Vinci painted the apostles and Jesus. Because of the perva­sive influ­ence of this portrayal, it has become part of our unspo­ken assumption about the Last Supper that every­one present was sitting around a table.3 Most English trans­lations of the Bible use the word "sitting" in this passage, thus reinforcing the image from another side (as in Mark 14:18, KJV).

What do we make, then, of the passage which says that "one of his disci­ples __ the one whom Jesus loved __ was reclining next to him" (John 13:23), "close to the breast of Jesus" (RSV)? Some mis­informed inter­pret­ers have taken this as an indication that there was an intimate relationship between the two. This is one of the passages, along with the friendships of David and Jonathan, Naomi and Ruth, and Paul and Timothy, usually adduced as supporting evidence in discussions of a favorable biblical attitude toward ho­mosexuality (1.64-66; 1.70). Others find a clear condemnation of such practices (1.69), while some emphasize the ambiguity of the passages (1.67-68; see also chapter 8).

Many Christians are uncomfortable with the notion of a homo­sexual Savior. How do they answer the charge? One well-inten­tioned writer tried to argue that Jesus' culture was more open to touching and that Jesus himself "didn't hesitate to let the apostle John rest his head on his bosom nor shake him away because of what people might think" (1.69:1400). That argument is obviously circular. If the society was more open to touching, no one would think any­thing about their posture, and Jesus would not have to be concerned with shaking John away.

The resolution of the question, though slightly different, is cul­turally based. Jesus and his disciples ate the Passover not sitting in chairs around a table but reclining on couches.4 The Greek verbs used in all the Gospels mean "to recline," not "to sit."5 The phrase "to lean (recline) on someone's breast" is an idiom in Greek mean­ing no more than "to sit next to someone" in English. So we find that even a quick insight into the cultural setting of the narrative re­solves what appeared to be a difficulty for interpretation. Argu­ments based on a misreading of the text can be recognized as deceptive.

You suggest they bother me and they don't beyond acknowledging the sheer magnitude of ignorance demonstrated daily ...I find now that some times on an entire page I will only see one post.

I feel smarter for that.

If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian.

inane crap? at the beginning of the thread, we were talking about the same thing.

then it took some sort of odd mel-gibson style turn into blaming jews for the crucifixion, and biting bipolar bear's head off for not understanding christlike love.

obviously, i should bow to you and rex's vision of "christlike," and go have some private time with a copy of the protocols of the elders of zion.

what the hell?

A classic bit of Twain...

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If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be--a Christian.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

What was the last thing Christ said at the Last Supper?

Everyone who wants their picture taken get on this side of the table....


an oldie but a goodie...

The last supper before puppets like you nailed him to a cross...

RexRed wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

What was the last thing Christ said at the Last Supper?

Everyone who wants their picture taken get on this side of the table....


an oldie but a goodie...

The last supper before puppets like you nailed him to a cross...

that was before my time nancy... and if YOU ever followed along you'd know that I'm a big fan of Christ.... I just don't like simpering holier than thou Christians....... like yourself....so roll down your support hose and do the superior dance church lady..... I can always use a good laugh.

THE BIBLE DOES NOT ONLY BLAME THE JEWS!

The Holy Bible teaches that the law killed him, the devil killed him, (and yes) the Jews killed him, the "democratic" mob killed him and people are still crucifying him today.

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THE BIBLE DOES NOT ONLY BLAME THE JEWS!

The Holy Bible teaches that the law killed him, the devil killed him, (and yes) the Jews killed him, the "democratic" mob killed him and people are still crucifying him today.

yes, you mentioned that. it wasn't just them, satan helped!

i see, that's much more progressive... has nothing to do with any interpretation or history i've ever heard, including biblical ones.

calling him a liar? i just don't have any reason to trust him.

great, speculation.

enough people have deemed the "jews killed jesus" thing inaccurate, and there's no question how harmful it's been. you say you don't judge them, but you already used it as invective against bear.

to be honest, i'd like to tell you what you can do with your theory, but basically, i think your anti-semitism (and if not that, the rest of this thread) reveals just what kind of christian you are-

the kind that makes people loathe christianity. honestly, save it.