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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 04:58 am
After the tourist paid (for) the taxi fare, he carried his luggage into the hotel.

Can I use 'for' in the sentence or should it be omitted?

Many thanks.
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happycat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:12 am
omitted

The tourist did not pay for the fare - the fare was for the ride.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:19 am
happycat wrote:
omitted

The tourist did not pay for the fare - the fare was for the ride.


After the tourist paid (for) the taxi fare, he carried his luggage into the hotel. (for has to be omitted)

When it is a negative sentence as in your sentence for should be used.

Did I get you correctly? (By the way, is this sentence correct?)

Many thanks.
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happycat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:26 am
In my sentence, I meant that the tourist didn't purchase the fare....he purchased the ride. The fare was the bill for the ride, and the tourist paid the bill.

You would not say "I paid for the bill for dinner." You would say "I paid the bill for dinner."
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:31 am
YL

After the tourist paid the taxi fare, he carried his luggage into the hotel.

The tourist did not pay the taxi fare, his wife did. She paid for the ride from the airport.

Its also possible that he paid for the Taxi.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:33 am
happycat wrote:
In my sentence, I meant that the tourist didn't purchase the fare....he purchased the ride. The fare was the bill for the ride, and the tourist paid the bill.

You would not say "I paid for the bill for dinner." You would say "I paid the bill for dinner."


My apologies for not getting what you meant with regard to my sentence.

I think I'll know clearly if you could let me know which sentence below is correct.

1. After the tourist paid the taxi fare, he carried his luggage into the hotel.
2. After the tourist paid for the taxi fare, he carried his luggage into the hotel.

Many thanks.

Best wishes.
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happycat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:35 am
#1 Smile
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:38 am
happycat wrote:
#1 Smile

My heartfelt gratitude for your guidance.

Best wishes.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:39 am
You pay for the taxi or the taxi ride. But you pay the fare.

If you buy a pair of shoes, you pay for the shoes. Or you pay the bill. You don't pay for a bill or a fare. You pay a fare or a bill. You pay for what the bill or fare is for.

You pay a doctor. You pay for the treatment you receive from the doctor.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:41 am
so english speakers, ladies and germs

Why did he pay for the Taxi
but only paid the fare. (Not paid for the fare). What is the difference between taxi and fare?
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:41 am
Thanks, Roberta.
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happycat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:43 am
Roberta wrote:
You pay for the taxi or the taxi ride. But you pay the fare.

If you buy a pair of shoes, you pay for the shoes. Or you pay the bill. You don't pay for a bill or a fare. You pay a fare or a bill. You pay for what the bill or fare is for.

You pay a doctor. You pay for the treatment you receive from the doctor.


...and that's exactly what I said in my first response!
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 07:47 am
dadpad wrote:
so english speakers, ladies and germs

Why did he pay for the Taxi
but only paid the fare. (Not paid for the fare). What is the difference between taxi and fare?


The fare is the bill. You don't pay for the bill, you pay for the item which, in this case, is the taxi ride. You pay the bill or the fare, and you pay for the service you received.

Got it? Smile Both happycat and Roberta said the same thing, very clearly, I thought.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 07:59 am
Of course I understand, I just don't understand why. Perhaps i should say I dont understand what rule applies, and I ask not only for my education but YL's as well.

Does this only apply to financial transactions?

Pay the account: Pay for the flowers.

I cant think of an example that does not involve a financial transaction.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 08:14 am
Oh, I see your question now...

Well you can also pay for your mistakes! Smile as in "I sat out in the sun too long and I'm sure paying for it now!"
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 08:20 am
Perhaps when you pay the fare or account you dont pay for it because you are actually receive nothing at that time, having received the service sometime in the past.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 08:22 am
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Mr Nice
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 12:41 pm
Mame wrote:
dadpad wrote:
so english speakers, ladies and germs

Why did he pay for the Taxi
but only paid the fare. (Not paid for the fare). What is the difference between taxi and fare?


The fare is the bill. You don't pay for the bill, you pay for the item which, in this case, is the taxi ride. You pay the bill or the fare, and you pay for the service you received.

Got it? Smile Both happycat and Roberta said the same thing, very clearly, I thought.



That's very clear.

I get it now.

Thank you very much.
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Yoong Liat
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 07:36 pm
You pay for the taxi. What does it mean? Your pay the taxi fare for the ride?

If the above is correct, then You pay for the taxi means You pay the taxi fare.

My apologies for dwelling on the same question, but I'm confused by You pay for the taxi. It seems to me it means that I buy the taxi.

Many thanks.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 08:16 pm
I think you should re-read the answers you were already given.
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