The Last words of Christ on the Cross

Translated into latin that reads

'anno crucifix scrotum'












[size=7](hey, if he's dumb enough to tatoo a huge crucifix on his back --- )[/size]

There is a Latin Translator here:
Free Online English to Latin

it came up with this....you may want to try it yourself. It also has options so you could just see. Make sure that is what it says for real before you get it tatooed though Timothyk!

Quod per ut , Is pandus suus caput capitis quod gave sursum Suus phasmatis

Translation programmes are usually unable to make coherent sentences. I suggest you run to you tatoo artist and tatoo the stuff mismi wrote right away.

For some reason, Coolwhip..."scrotum" sent red flags up...I just wouldn't want someone who was gullible like me...(ahem) going to get that tatooed on their arm if that's not really what it meant! All I am saying is - practice caution!

As you may have noticed, I'm not a big fan of tatoos. Especially latin phrases that for all they know means 'gonorrhea'. It's about as individualistic as chinese characters.

...in my humble opinion.

I got it..scared Timothyk might not... lmbo!
Think it is a very good point though!

I don't know if this helps, but the letters "INRI" on the sign above his head stand for, "I'm Nailed Right In."

That's ungrammatical gibberish. It even just left "gave" in English

Anyways, the original Greek says:

(a bunch of stuff in greek script that this forum apparently isn't set up to work with)

Which means (roughly) "And so after he took the vinegar he said, "it is finished," and bowed his head and surrendered his spirit."

The Latin vulgate says:

cum ergo accepisset Iesus acetum dixit consummatum est et inclinato capite tradidit spiritum

Which means (roughly) "And so when Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, "it is finished," and after he bowed his head, he surrendered his spirit.

So.

The problem back-translating this english rendering of some english version of the bible is that "and with that" is impossible to translate without knowing what "that" is. I'll also add that "and with that" does not appear in the original greek, nor in the latin vulgate.

If, however, you want to continue along the back-translation route, there are two basic options I can see:

cum hoc fecisset, inclinato capite tradidit spiritum

and

cum haec dixisset, inclinato capite tradidit spiritum

The first means "after he had done this, he bowed his head and surrendered his spirit" and the second means "after he had said this, he bowed his head and surrendered his spirit."

I know that's a lot of BS, so please ask me if you have any questions.

Thank you so much qfwfq - my goal was to keep "scrotum" off of Timothy's arm

lollersk8z.

I was gonna try to make a joke about that, but...I think it's funny enough without my input.

You're quite welcome. Beware of computerized translators!

I thought he said 'Peter, I can see your house from up here!'

Latin translation of Christ's Last Words
Hello:

qfwfq gave me a translation yesterday (TUES) which was very helpful.

I am looking for a little bit more direct wording for the phrase.

The english phrase is: And with that, Jesus bowed His head and gave up His Spirit.

The latin translation came to: Cum haec dixisset, inclinato capite, tradidit spiritum.

I need to know how the words "haec" and "dixisset" are being used since there is no specific reference to the name of Jesus.

Thank you for taking the time to read this email. I appreciate the help that you have given.

Take care,

Timothy

haec means "these things," since latin almost invariably demands a plural pronoun after verbs of speaking. i suppose, however, since Jesus actually only said one word, hoc ("this thing") would also be acceptable--in fact, it would probably be preferable.

dixisset means "he had said," except that it's in the subjunctive mood, which is impossible to translate without context--it's simply a different form of the verb that's used to express certain things. In this circumstance, it follows the conjunction cum ("when"), which (in this case) demands a subjunctive verb.

As far as the name of Jesus, the original English you posted was "And with that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit," in which Jesus' name does not appear. If you want to add his name, simply add Iesus after capite and before tradidit.

So, the amended translation would read:

cum hoc dixisset, inclinato capite [Iesus] tradidit spiritum.

I will, however, take this opportunity to remind you that "and with that" does not appear in the original Greek text nor in the traditional Latin translation of the bible (refer to my previous post). It is simply the addition of a translator who thought it sounded better in English that way.

He had no last words,,, just a thought.

that's a logical impossibility! If he spoke at all, then one of his words must have been his last!

well, somebody posted on previous page that it was "It is finished!"

which is rather funny. i'd go for that.

odd that you people think he spoke in anything other than Aramaic...he was a Jew, and he was Nazarine.

even more odd is the fact that out of all the names on the planet, only his and his reported dad have theirs translated into other languages. David is David in Korean, South African, or Hindu. But Yashua turns to Jeezus, Jesus, and Jesus Christ. And the same for the father...

That's a lot of assuming.

Just because I quote the bible, in which he speaks greek...that doesn't mean that I think he spoke greek as his primary language. Hell, the bible even quotes him speaking in aramaic (eloi, eloi ktl.).

Greek is what we regard as the original language of the new testament. It doesn't follow that everyone thinks it was the original language out of Jesus' mouth, although I do find it likely that he also spoke greek. Koine greek was the "lingua franca" (ut ita dicam) of the times.



The ancients were not always very precise with their phonetic transcriptions of foreign names. Also, "christ" is a title.

first, I assume nothing. Merely reading what was written before.

As far as the New Testament being in Greek, I agree....it was written some 40+ years after the supposed death of Yashua. I say supposed because other than the NT, there is no evidence of his birth OR death, even in the Roman histories. The fact that a census took place around the time he was 'born' isn't proof of anything. If the king of the jews ordered the deaths of firstborn (ala Egypt), then this would be in the Roman histories. also, the whole blotting of the sky (crucifiction) would be in there as well. So, his last words on the cross could have been 'Pete Rose will never get into the Hall of Fame', only spoken in Swahili....

the ancients weren't always right with their proliferation of fantasy to make a point, either. What exactly does this have to do with the names being translated?

Yes, I know that christ is a title, but so is jesus...