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Bush's heartless Rx

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 09:01 am
Bush's heartless Rx



Tuesday, August 21st 2007, 4:00 AM


President Bush has a message for the millions of parents who can't afford decent health care for their children: Stop whining and go to the emergency room.

How else to interpret his stubborn opposition to expanding government coverage for kids, the utterly innocent victims of America's Swiss cheese health system?

First, Bush threatened to veto legislation - passed by bipartisan majorities in both houses of Congress - that would give states money to insure millions more low- and moderate-income children.

Then last week, the Bush administration threw a monkey wrench into Gov. Spitzer's plan for adding 400,000 more kids to New York's Child Health Plus program. Draconian rules issued by the feds late Friday would make it all but impossible for Spitzer to achieve his worthy goal of near-universal childhood coverage.

These knee-jerk decisions show that Bush either doesn't understand the crisis of the uninsured or isn't serious about addressing it.

"They're playing politics at the expense of all of these children," said Jennifer Rojas, deputy director of the Children's Defense Fund - New York.

America's health-care system is the best in the world - if you have insurance. We spare no expense on those poor enough to qualify for Medicaid, old enough to enroll in Medicare or lucky enough to have a job with good health benefits.

But one out of six Americans - an estimated 44 million people, including 2.8 million New Yorkers - falls through the cracks. Most of the uninsured have jobs, but they're either self-employed or work for a small company that doesn't offer benefits. Millions of middle-class parents cannot possibly afford the premium for family coverage - which averages $11,000 a year and is soaring - without plenty of outside help.

The health-care lottery is particularly cruel to kids, who have no control over their family's insurance status. Parents struggling to pay the rent may be forced to skimp on doctor visits, with long-term, potentially tragic consequences for kids with asthma and diabetes.

Governors are trying to tackle the situation head-on by offering free or low-cost health coverage for children. Spitzer wants to make Child Health Plus available for families making up to about $83,000 for a family of four, with families at the top of that scale expected to chip in part of the cost.

The House and Senate were ready to support those efforts by greatly expanding the Children's Health Insurance Program, which picks up 65% of states' costs.

Bush responded with ideological boilerplate about tax incentives and health savings accounts - which won't put the slightest dent in the problem - and issued dark warnings against "government control of health care."

What quackery. Spitzer's plan would cost $1,500 per kid per year - much less than the cost of a single hospitalization for a child with poorly managed diabetes. And New York buys its coverage from private health plans which deliver care mostly through private hospitals and doctors. Socialized medicine, this is not.

Bush's cluelessness on the issue was on vivid display at a speech in Cleveland when he tried to defend his veto threat.

"People have access to health care in America," he said. "After all, you just go to an emergency room."

On this issue, it's our President who needs a checkup - from the neck up.

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Bush's compassion continues to shine through.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 12:58 pm
Let the wealthy of New York fork up the money, for the children's insurance.

By the way, how many of these kids are really US citizens?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:00 pm
Miller wrote:
Let the wealthy of New York fork up the money, for the children's insurance.

By the way, how many of these kids are really US citizens?


Most of them, if not the vast majority of them.

Cycloptichorn
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:09 pm
Children of illegals...
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fishin
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:10 pm
Re: Bush's heartless Rx
au1929 wrote:
The health-care lottery is particularly cruel to kids, who have no control over their family's insurance status. Parents struggling to pay the rent may be forced to skimp on doctor visits, with long-term, potentially tragic consequences for kids with asthma and diabetes.


I agree, it is cruel. And if parents are making $82,600 a year and can't be bothered to buy health insurance to cover their kids then the state should step in and take their kids away from them - and force the parents to cover the state's bills for doing it.

$82,600 was in the income cap for both the CHIP proposal and Spitzer's plan and it's BS. Very few people have problems funding the program for those who are truely poor and can't afford insurance.

Parents who earn $82K/year and don't buy insurance aren't doing so because they are poor or can't afford it. They are just plain stupid and it should be considered child abuse.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:10 pm
Isn't there now a tax on all cars entering NYCity of about $8/trip/day?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 01:15 pm
Miller wrote:
Children of illegals...


So what? If they were born here, they are US citizens.

Cycloptichorn
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 02:04 pm
Goodie, so let them pay their own way. Nothing's free... Cool
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 02:10 pm
Miller wrote:
Goodie, so let them pay their own way. Nothing's free... Cool


No children of any family pay for their own health care. Why should it matter to the child that their parents are illegal aliens? It was neither their fault nor their choice. We have a societal responsibility to attempt to do the best by them that we can.

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2007 03:02 pm
Interesting....

In the school voucher thread, some complain about their tax monies going to vouchers so American Children of legal parents can send their children to private schools, but on this thread, they are carefree with tax monies being spent on children of illegal parents.

Perhaps if instead of funding health care of illegals, we spent that money on education we could have vouchers?
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 22 Aug, 2007 08:51 am
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Bush's bad medicine

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President Bush has made it his mission to prevent the nation's governors, Democrats and Republicans, from extending a health care safety net to thousands of children whose parents have been shut out of insurance coverage. Congress must right the President's wrong.

By administrative fiat, Bush has crippled Gov. Spitzer's plan to open federally funded insurance to more working-class families - a plan passed with wide bipartisan support. California Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger got similarly slammed, as did other state executives.

That one in 10 American kids lives without health coverage - forced to rely on free clinics and emergency rooms for everything from booster shots to asthma inhalers - is a national embarrassment. Governors nationwide have been taking increasing advantage of the federal Children's Health Insurance Program, which helps cover children whose families earn too much money to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to buy private insurance.

The program was initially aimed at households earning less than 200% of the poverty rate, but the White House let states raise the eligibility criteria. Spitzer would make the coverage available to families earning as much as 400% of the poverty level, just over $80,000 annually.

With Republicans joining Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, Congress is heading that way. But Bush is threatening a veto and using regulatory authority to roll back benefits already in place.

Rules issued by his administration would make it practically impossible for states to offer subsidized coverage to families over 250% of the poverty level, or $60,000 for a family of four. Never mind that millions of families who can't afford insurance fall into this income category. Never mind that these same federal officials already okayed coverage up to 300% of poverty in several states. The Bush forces have decided that making sure kids get health care is "socialized medicine," and they're against it.

One statement vividly sums up Bush's attitude: "People have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room."

If Bush gets his way, Spitzer's plan to achieve near-universal coverage for New York children will never get off the ground. Ditto for efforts in other states, where elected officials are trying to ease a health care crisis the feds have ignored. Congress must come to the rescue. The nation's children deserve nothing less.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2007 11:15 am
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2007 01:11 pm
Its Bush's fault. It is probably Bush's fault those people without insurance even had children in the first place.
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rabel22
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2007 05:50 pm
The longer Okie posts the more incredibly obtuse he becomes.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 05:56 am
rabel22 wrote:
The longer Okie posts the more incredibly obtuse he becomes.


Remember OKIE is a supporter of Bush. what else could you expect.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 06:46 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Miller wrote:
Goodie, so let them pay their own way. Nothing's free... Cool


No children of any family pay for their own health care. Why should it matter to the child that their parents are illegal aliens? It was neither their fault nor their choice. We have a societal responsibility to attempt to do the best by them that we can.

Cycloptichorn


Oh for god's sake. They're children, whether "illegals" or not. They need medical assistance when ill, just like anyone else.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 08:27 pm
rabel22 wrote:
The longer Okie posts the more incredibly obtuse he becomes.

I'm just trying to sound like you guys here. If I say its Bush's fault, I don't even have to read up on the issue being debated, I know I can't be far off from most of the opinions.
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anton
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2007 09:27 pm
Isn't it time the US had a free Health Service like the one many in the Western World take for granted, I suppose if your government wasn't spending billions of dollars invading countries, killing and maiming perhaps you would have one; even Cuba has a free Health Service?
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 12:49 am
Well, Castro isn't president here, so I guess we'll have to blame Bush.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 07:56 am
okie wrote:
Well, Castro isn't president here, so I guess we'll have to blame Bush.



I blame the American electorate for electing that unqualified dolt.
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