Finn dAbuzz wrote:
You can sky-write your ridiculous comments in letters the size of a house and I would not understand them any better.
Pasting the dictionary definition of "fair" doesn't respond to my question (in other than a glib way).
No word is obscene unto itself. It is always the use and context that matters.
You indicated that America lost it's "fair" share of lives in WWII. Fair based on what? The extent of it's interests? The measure of it contribution to the cause of the war?
WW2 is the ONE war that Americans actually lost a fair number of soldiers
Since "use and context" matter perhaps you should stick with my use and context and not some fictional use that you want to argue against. Your attempt to change what I said to "It's fair share" is nothing but an attempt to drastically change the meaning of what I actually said. You need only substitute the correct meaning for the word "fair" to understand what I said.
Your comment also implies that America has lost other than its "fair" share of lives in other wars. I'm betting dollars to donuts that you don't believe America has lost more than it's "fair" share of lives in other wars.If this is so then you are implying America did not lose it's "fair" share of lives in WWI, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq etc.
Since I never said the word "share" I don't see how you can even make your argument.
If it is not so than we agree and why are you giving me grief?
Because you are arguing about something I never said, you deserve grief. If you keep it up you deserve more than grief, you deserve ridicule. (Adjectives only modify nouns in the sentence they are in. They don't modify words not used in the paragraph or words not used on the page.)
What was America's "fair" share of lost lives in WWI? Considering that our country was not under attack and that we gained very little in comparison to the Brits and French by defeating The Axis, we should have "fairly" lost more lives?
I never said anything about "fair share".
What is it with you folks?
"America has done some horrible things too!"
"America isn't perfect you know!"
"America isn't as great as you think it is!"
Do you tell your brother the same thing about your mother?
"Mom isn't perfect you know!
"Mom has done some lousy things too you know!"
It would be OK if you folks applied the same harsh light equally to all nations. In fact if you did, America would still come out ahead. But...you don't.
Cuba ain't so bad and neither is Hugo Chavez. Mao and Lenin were no Hitlers. Hell, for some of you they were no George Bushes!
That's a lovely strawman. Is your entire argument going to be against things I have never said?
Obviously America is not perfect, and yes it has things of which it should be ashamed, but why is it so hard for you to give credit where credit is due?
Funny, you attacked me for saying almost the exact same thing you just said. I said it this way.
Yes, that is true to some extent. But any time a country rationalizes its actions based on the premise that it can do no wrong it can't be too far from doing wrong.
The US has warts. Yes, it is better than some countries but it isn't somehow the best country that has ever been.
Please don't give me the BS that is people like you, pointing America's problems that keeps it great. You like to point out it's problems. Admit it.
You just pointed to the fact that the US has things it should be ashamed of. Does that mean you like to point out the US's problems? I on more than one occassion agreed that the US is better as a superpower than many countries might be. But it seems you prefer to play "make believe" instead of dealing with reality.
Why else would Foofie not simply accept your vague argument about your nationality?
There wasn't anything vague about it. It is simple grammar. "We" has a meaning that can't really be misconstrued and is hardly vague.
Why can't you simply state you are American? While you're at it you might also say you are proud of it, but I suspect that's not the case at all
I see you absolutely refuse to discuss what I have said and instead want to make up an argument so you have something to argue against. Meanwhile as you went off on your tangent about what I didn't say you failed to discuss what YOU said in defense of a premise that you don't seem to even agree with.