Surge Succeeds

When was the LAST TIME the NY TIMES Editorial board publish ANYTHING "Pro Bush"? Never that when.

The longer the Times remained silent on Chalabi's importance to Judith Miller's reporting, the louder critics howled. In February, in the New York Review of Books, Michael Massing held up Miller as evidence of the press's "submissiveness" in covering the war. For more than a year, Slate's Jack Shafer has demanded the paper come clean.

Brand X wrote:

You're correct....and I was comparing deaths to the two previous months.

If it is a trend, that's the key.

Where were you when the deaths were trending up?

How about the 5+ years of 'making progress' in Iraq?

maporsche wrote:

Brand X wrote:

You're correct....and I was comparing deaths to the two previous months.

If it is a trend, that's the key.

Where were you when the deaths were trending up?

How about the 5+ years of 'making progress' in Iraq?

We are discussing now in regard to the 'surge'. Where were you when the title of the thread was presented?

Brand X wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Brand X wrote:

You're correct....and I was comparing deaths to the two previous months.

If it is a trend, that's the key.

Where were you when the deaths were trending up?

How about the 5+ years of 'making progress' in Iraq?

We are discussing now in regard to the 'surge'. Where were you when the title of the thread was presented?

I was here.....I was also here when the threads about how great the surge was working about 2 weeks after it started a few months ago.....then it wasn't working too well so we didn't hear much....now deaths are lower than the last 2 months so we're talking about it again....if they go up in August we won't hear anything...and then we'll be into September where we should hear a ton about it.

We could jump back to some of the 'surge is working' threads from a few months ago if you like....



Oh yeah, and how about Bush's statements 'we're making good progress in Iraq' over the last 5 years....how long can he keep peddeling that BS.

maporsche wrote:

Brand X wrote:

maporsche wrote:

Brand X wrote:

You're correct....and I was comparing deaths to the two previous months.

If it is a trend, that's the key.

Where were you when the deaths were trending up?

How about the 5+ years of 'making progress' in Iraq?

We are discussing now in regard to the 'surge'. Where were you when the title of the thread was presented?

I was here.....I was also here when the threads about how great the surge was working about 2 weeks after it started a few months ago.....then it wasn't working too well so we didn't hear much....now deaths are lower than the last 2 months so we're talking about it again....if they go up in August we won't hear anything...and then we'll be into September where we should hear a ton about it.

We could jump back to some of the 'surge is working' threads from a few months ago if you like....



Oh yeah, and how about Bush's statements 'we're making good progress in Iraq' over the last 5 years....how long can he keep peddeling that BS.

I don't know why the hell you're yapping at me about the surge, I was against it to begin with. I am hoping the lower death rate this month is the beginning of a trend....is that so bad? If so tell me why.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum.

Wilso wrote:

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum.

You should be grateful he's actually looking for you.

Wilso wrote:

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum.

You should be grateful he's actually looking for you.

That's pretty nonsensical garbage, but quite common. Of course McG is right down at his normal level.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum. The incredible thing is that there are other pathetic half wits who actually take anything this ridiculous loser says seriously.

The point (you effing blowhard) is I find is disgusting how liberals will never look at a opinion that supports anything Pro Bush with objectivness. I personally could give a SHITE about the surge working or not working since we should not be there in the first place. Therefore, take you snippy little comments and tell them to any other of your media geek friends.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum. The incredible thing is that there are other pathetic half wits who actually take anything this ridiculous loser says seriously.

Of course, the stupidest thing was to get involved in any thread where gunga is involved. It will inevitably drag anyone down in to the sewer with the conservatives.

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That's pretty nonsensical garbage, but quite common. Of course McG is right down at his normal level.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum. The incredible thing is that there are other pathetic half wits who actually take anything this ridiculous loser says seriously.

The point (you effing blowhard) is I find is disgusting how liberals will never look at a opinion that supports anything Pro Bush with objectivness. I personally could give a SHITE about the surge working or not working since we should not be there in the first place. Therefore, take you snippy little comments and tell them to any other of your media geek friends.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum. The incredible thing is that there are other pathetic half wits who actually take anything this ridiculous loser says seriously.

Of course, the stupidest thing was to get involved in any thread where gunga is involved. It will inevitably drag anyone down in to the sewer with the conservatives.

I have noticed a couple of things as I have observed participated in discussions and debates on the subject of Iraq and George Bush over the past five years. Generally speaking the difference boils down to one of three things:

1. One or the other of the principals refuses to give any credence to the other until the truth of one of his points is acknowledged.
   
2. There are more points of agreement than disagreement.
   
3. One or both of the parties refuses to acknowledge the validity of the arguments of the other party even though he/she knows the point, viewpoint, or logic is valid.

One thing is certain. No good or agreement is achieved by sniping and name calling, quite the opposite in fact. Everyone here should realize that for every active participant in a particular discussion, there are probably 10 to 20 sitting on the sidelines following it looking for information or nuggets of inescapable truth. If your purpose here is to convince someone of your viewpoint and analysis, rather than stooping to name calling think of the people who are reading but not posting and keep the discourse on a higher level.

If the intellectual prowess of the participants is reflected in the name calling, I'll probably get flamed for suggesting that we raise the level of the debate, but it's worth the risk.

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That's pretty nonsensical garbage, but quite common. Of course McG is right down at his normal level.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum. The incredible thing is that there are other pathetic half wits who actually take anything this ridiculous loser says seriously.

The point (you effing blowhard) is I find is disgusting how liberals will never look at a opinion that supports anything Pro Bush with objectivness. I personally could give a SHITE about the surge working or not working since we should not be there in the first place. Therefore, take you snippy little comments and tell them to any other of your media geek friends.

The right wing are living in their own little fantasy world. Gungasnake is a deluded moron who spends most of his time with his head firmly jammed deep within his own rectum. The incredible thing is that there are other pathetic half wits who actually take anything this ridiculous loser says seriously.

I have noticed a couple of things as I have observed participated in discussions and debates on the subject of Iraq and George Bush over the past five years. Generally speaking the difference boils down to one of three things:

1. One or the other of the principals refuses to give any credence to the other until the truth of one of his points is acknowledged.
   
2. There are more points of agreement than disagreement.
   
3. One or both of the parties refuses to acknowledge the validity of the arguments of the other party even though he/she knows the point, viewpoint, or logic is valid.

One thing is certain. No good or agreement is achieved by sniping and name calling, quite the opposite in fact. Everyone here should realize that for every active participant in a particular discussion, there are probably 10 to 20 sitting on the sidelines following it looking for information or nuggets of inescapable truth. If your purpose here is to convince someone of your viewpoint and analysis, rather than stooping to name calling think of the people who are reading but not posting and keep the discourse on a higher level.

If the intellectual prowess of the participants is reflected in the name calling, I'll probably get flamed for suggesting that we raise the level of the debate, but it's worth the risk.

I'm sorry to say that you do not have the wealth of experience with the posters in question that others here do; or else you would see that there are repeated and persistent patterns by some here to denigrate, insult, demean, and basically troll up the forum to the greatest extent possible.

I'll probably get flamed for suggesting that we raise the level of the debate, but it's worth the risk.

See, when Cycloptichorn says something like:

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I'm sorry to say that you do not have the wealth of experience with the posters in question that others here do; or else you would see that there are repeated and persistent patterns by some here to denigrate, insult, demean, and basically troll up the forum to the greatest extent possible.

He doesn't have people like Wilso in mind. Despite the fact Wilson repeatedly and predictably always falls into his usual cesspool of dogma. All Cyc thinks of is the 8 or 9 conservative posters that remain on A2K. Any opinion that differs from his becomes trolling, any article posted becomes tiresome rhetoric, I think you get the drift.

Due to repeated assaults by people like Wilso, Cicerone Imposter, maporsche, dyslexia, oh hell, the list is too damn long, all I can do any more is post in a combative tone and wear some thick skin.

woiyo, Please tell us about all those "opinions that supports anything Pro Bush with objectiveness." Your's included.

The surge is working is an oxymoron. Many of the Iraqis are suffering from lack of food and water. They are short of hospital supplies, electricity, and all the necessary goods required to live. What's working? I'd really like to know.