So.....I voted for Obama...

Hey, good to know.

I haven't voted yet, keep being lobbied to do so. I just want to on election day. Might be a bad idea.

No, they ran out.

My vote didn't matter much anyway. I live in Illinois, no way McCain would have won here.

Hey, map -- I was just thinking about you yesterday and wondering how you were leaning these days. We're doing the early vote on Saturday morning when my 18 year old comes home for the weekend. I'm not that far left of center that McCain wasn't a possible choice for me until he picked his running mate. That choice alone got me off the fence. I've seen a number of things since then that reinforced my decision but I understand how you got to where you got to.

That said, given that we're both in IL makes the whole thing fairly moot but we might as well make a conscientious vote.

I voted for all republicans in the state positions though. This state is WAY too far left. I need lower property taxes and some gun rights back.

His running mate didn't help my decision any. I liked her stance on the 2A, but she's to much of a religious nut job for me.

It's interesting to see both you and ma porsche sitting on the fence for so long leaning for McCain. I would have voted for McCain that existed several years ago, but not the "new" McCain who doesn't resemble anything like the "old" one.

His vote to approve torture really turned me off of McCain, and it's been going downhill ever since. His flip-flops on the major issues, and approval of the bailout told me he's not strong on economics or ethics.

I wish we had another candidate for Obama, because I really don't care to vote for him. He's too much of a patsy, and his intellectual responses with no charisma just doesn't cut it for me. I think he'll be "weak" when discussing issues with foreign leaders, because he doesn't have the "killer instinct" or enough aggressiveness to make his point.

However, between the two choices we have, it'll have to be Obama. I hope that his advisers helps him to become a stronger leader.

So far, I've heard only monotone intellectualism.

AS IF there were anything u r going to DO to him, if he DOES.

I wasn't really leaning towards McCain, ci. More that I was squarely on the fence. I tend to lean libertarian and as such don't like big government or nationalized bureaucratic (mis)management of my tax dollars. The more pies the government sticks it's fingers into and and the larger the pie the more they seem to screw it up. At the same time I don't approve of legislative interference in social mores. So -- I don't like the big government of the dems and I don't like the conservative social legislations of the repubs. There's nothing I can do about big government -- it's already too big and getting bigger all the time regardless of the party in power. There is something I can do towards keeping government out of personal lifestyle and decisions.

Like you, I saw the old McCain as a social moderate and would have leaned towards him previously. That was before he started pandering to the social conservatives. I was holding out hope that it was just pandering until he announced his choice of running mate.

They're both going to raise taxes regardless of what they say. They're both going to run governments that waste a good portion of the dollars they raise. Only one of them professes to reduce or help eliminate government interference in personal decisions.

... and extremely annoying, huh?

We're pretty much on the same page here.

I'm going to post very angry things about him on this message board...and maybe move to Switzerland.

JPB:
If u favor libertarianism, as I do,
then voting for Sarah Palin is the right way.
She has been working with the libertarian Republicans in Alaska.
Concededly, and sadly, her anti-abortion stance is not libertarian,
but in order to win,
McCain cannot brush off the votes from the theocrats.

Yeah; that 's what he cares about.



That 's possible.
I wonder if thay r still on the gold standard ?
It has 4 official state languages, none of which is English.

I am not sure of the degree to which it is anti-socialist.





David

I think he will be too busy trying to fix the economy and getting out of Iraq to worry if Americans are filling up their closets with guns.

While his health care program is better than McCains (which is useless if you're middle class, and damaging if you own a business), I also hope he reevaluates it to make it more like the Australian medical system and less like our current third world style coverage.

my anti-theocracy stance precedes all other considerations on my list, david. Neutralizing the votes from the theocrats is my top priority. Palin's 2A position may be libertarian, but the risk of any government throwing out the 2nd amendment is a non-starter.

I hope so GW, I hope so.

With your hope and a quarter, u can make a fone call.