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They're Still Probing Us

 
 
Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 08:41 am
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=265503786754384

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They're Still Probing Us

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:20 PM PT

War On Terror: The 9/11 hijackers are known to have flown cross-country routes to test airline security before the attacks. Now there is evidence of others doing similar dry runs.

Related Topics: Global War On Terror | Military & Defense

And once again, Washington has been caught napping. Homeland Security officials failed to report a group of Middle Eastern men acting suspiciously aboard a Northwest Airlines flight three years ago.

According to the just-released inspector's general report of the chilling incident, the men ?- all of whom bought one-way tickets from Detroit to Los Angeles ?- arrived at the gate together, then split up and acted as if they were not acquainted. They appeared sweaty and nervous.

During the flight, the men changed seats, huddled in the aisles and got up when the fasten-seat belt sign was turned on. Some appeared to count passengers.

At one point, a man rushed toward the cockpit and, at the last minute, entered the first-class cabin lavatory where he remained for some 20 minutes.

Another man carried a large McDonald's restaurant bag into the toilet and made a thumbs-up signal to another man upon returning to his seat. Another took a cell phone into the lavatory. Yet another made a slashing motion across his throat, appearing to say "no," the report said.

Flight attendants on board were so alarmed by the men's coordinated behavior that they asked to see the pilot. Air marshals suspect the goal of the men was to see if they could get the crew to open the reinforced cockpit door (which they did) for a possible hijacking.

They also may have been rehearsing the building of a bomb in the lavatory.

"What is disturbing to us as pilots is that there are now a number of incidents like this taking place across our industry," the Airline Pilots Security Alliance president told the Washington Times.

Last year, six imams behaved suspiciously aboard a US Airways flight. They did not take their assigned seats but dispersed throughout the plane in the same configuration as the 9/11 hijackers. Some asked for seat belt extensions but did not use them.

It turned out that the leader of the group years earlier had defended two Arizona college students who were removed from an America West flight after twice attempting to open the cockpit.

The FBI later suspected the two young Muslim men were doing a dry run for a future hijacking. One of them had traveled to Afghanistan.

What's stunning is that all of these men were released in each incident.

In the Northwest incident, a check of the FBI database showed the leader of the group had been involved "in similar suspicious behavior" on a another flight just six months earlier, the IG report said. Yet he was released along with the others, all of whom were Syrian nationals in the country illegally. The feds didn't bother to check their status the day of the incident.

"The FAMS (Federal Air Marshal Service) and FBI found no reason to hold the men longer at the time, even though the promoter had been involved in a similar incident on a previous flight," the IG noted.

The Lebanese-born leader had also been detained in September on a return trip to the U.S. from Istanbul. Why was his expired visa ever extended?

The enemy is probing us daily. The FBI says that over the past two years, the tempo of terrorist activity inside America has accelerated. Yet it seems Washington remains locked in pre-9/11 mode ?- too complacent, slow or politically correct to effectively protect us.

That's why it's so critical that Congress at least protect the Jane Does, such as the passenger who complained to authorities about the Syrians aboard the Northwest flight ?- and the John Does, such as the passenger who alerted the crew about the Flying Imams.

If the bureaucracy can't protect us from terrorists, citizens must step in with 24-7 vigilance. That's the price we pay in a post-9/11 world. We can't be afraid to see what we see ?- or report it when we see it, even under threat of being sued by Islamist groups or being labeled bigots.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 08:45 am
Kick the hispanics out too while were at it Sad what a sad time we live in, a sad, sad, sad, sad time.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 08:52 am
Every airline passenger should carry a gun That way if a hijacker attempts to take over a plane at 30 000 feet all passengers could open fire.
Now some passengers might be badly wounded in the crossfire and the pressurised hull may be perforated and everyone sucked out but that's the price you've got to pay to keep the airways safe and scum form winning.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:15 am
dadpad wrote:
Every airline passenger should carry a gun That way if a hijacker attempts to take over a plane at 30 000 feet all passengers could open fire.
Now some passengers might be badly wounded in the crossfire and the pressurised hull may be perforated and everyone sucked out but that's the price you've got to pay to keep the airways safe and scum form winning.


Doesn't sound like you know much about modern airplanes. There's an opening in the rear of the plane for the very purpose of pulling stale air out of the planeand that opening is substantially bigger than anything you could create with twenty or thirty shots with a 45.

The point however was that a real government (as opposed to our PC facsimile) would not simply release people it had caught doing this kind of ****.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:23 am
gungasnake wrote:


The point however was that a real government (as opposed to our PC facsimile) would not simply release people it had caught doing this kind of ****.


Too bloody right mate them commie towelheads should all die in a hail of bullets for going to the toilet on an aeroplane.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:30 am
Carry a pig on every plane. Muslims won't die along with a pig because then they can't get into paradise. Problem solved.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:39 am
I'm sorry, I tried really hard not to, but I had to!























Pigs might fly
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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 09:53 am
gungasnake wrote:


Doesn't sound like you know much about modern airplanes. There's an opening in the rear of the plane for the very purpose of pulling stale air out of the planeand that opening is substantially bigger than anything you could create with twenty or thirty shots with a 45.

The point however was that a real government (as opposed to our PC facsimile) would not simply release people it had caught doing this kind of ****.


If everyone had a tank, those damned criminals wouldn't dare leaving their house, nor would anyone else. Problem solved!
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 10:53 am
Wilso wrote:
Carry a pig on every plane. Muslims won't die along with a pig because then they can't get into paradise. Problem solved.


That MIGHT actually work....

Jack Pershing totally eliminated slammite terorism in the Phillipines that way.

http://www.crusaderammunition.com/

http://www.crusaderammunition.com/shield-2.jpg
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sun 3 Jun, 2007 03:18 pm
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jack_pershing.htm

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Comments: I consulted Dr. Frank E. Vandiver, professor of history at Texas A&M University and author of "Black Jack: The Life and Times of John J. Pershing," to find out if there's any truth to the above, and he responded via email that in his opinion the story is apocryphal. "I never found any indication that it was true in extensive research on his Moro experiences," he wrote. "This kind of thing would have run completely against his character."

Similarly, I been unable to find any evidence corroborating the claim that Muslims believe that "eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from paradise and doomed to hell." It is true that Islamic dietary restrictions, like those of Judaism, forbid the eating or handling of pork because pigs are considered unclean. But according to Raeed Tayeh of the American Muslim Association in North America, the notion that a Muslim would be denied entrance to heaven for touching a pig is "ridiculous." A statement from the Anti-Defamation League characterized the claim as an "offensive caricature of Muslim beliefs."
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 04:32 am
Snopes at least signs his name to his writings; this guy doesn't.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 04:45 am
Darn.
What do I do with this pig I bought for my trip to Florida?

Joe(he's a cutie!)Nation
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 05:27 am
I think the world's got a bigger problem than a few goat herders trying to take over aeroplanes. I was listening to a woman on the radio today. She's an author and either a muslim or ex-muslim, who has a permanent security contigent because she has insulted islam. Talking about Iran's attempts to get the "bomb", she was saying that the bigger problem then becomes that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc etc will all get it as well. She also claimed an interesting point that Saudi Arabia is a bigger enemy of the west than Iran. How do we control this threat without spreading nuclear waste across half the planet?
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Coolwhip
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 07:29 am
Wilso wrote:
I think the world's got a bigger problem than a few goat herders trying to take over aeroplanes. I was listening to a woman on the radio today. She's an author and either a muslim or ex-muslim, who has a permanent security contigent because she has insulted islam. Talking about Iran's attempts to get the "bomb", she was saying that the bigger problem then becomes that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc etc will all get it as well. She also claimed an interesting point that Saudi Arabia is a bigger enemy of the west than Iran. How do we control this threat without spreading nuclear waste across half the planet?



The simple answer is; diplomacy.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 07:46 am
we don't.... it's going to happen... just enjoy your life and when death comes knocking offer him a line and a shot for the road.....
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 07:54 am
Quote:
And we will all go together when we go.
What a comforting fact that is to know.
Universal bereavement,
An inspiring achievement,
Yes, we will all go together when we go.

We will all go together when we go.
All suffused with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go.

Oh we will all fry together when we fry.
We'll be French fried potatoes by and by.
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie,
Yes, we will all fry together when we fry.

Down by the old maelstrom,
There'll be a storm before the calm.

And we will all bake together when we bake.
There'll be nobody present at the wake.
With complete participation
In that grand incineration,
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak.

Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that I.C.B.M.,*
And the party will be come-as-you-are.

Oh, we will all burn together when we burn.
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it's time for the fallout
And Saint Peter calls us all out,
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn.

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollahs.

And we will all go together when we go.
Every Hottentot and every Eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
We will all go simultaneous.
Yes, we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 07:56 am
BRAVO :wink:
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:21 am
The four alleged Jfk airport plotters were not Arabic Muslims but men originally from the Caribbean area, one was even a a naturalized American citizen .

N.Y. Airport Target of Plot, Officials Say

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That led federal and local authorities in the New York region to launch a 16-month sting operation focused on the activities of Defreitas, a naturalized American citizen who worked for years for a small airline company based at JFK. According to the complaint, he appeared to harbor deep resentment against the United States that dated to before the 2001 attacks.





So tell me, how are we going to watch all potential terrorist when they all don't look or act alike?

Next time it might just be another all american white boy converted to Islam who is involved in a plot against the United States. Or even another Timothy McVeigh with some kind of grudge against the United States.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2007 08:40 am
gungasnake wrote:
Snopes at least signs his name to his writings; this guy doesn't.


Try scrolling down if you want to know who wrote it.
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