Do Atheists "Worship" Anything?

Rex - Am I to understand that you think atheism childish?

TKO, it's funny because I've used exactly the same quote to deride theism.

Atheism is what wild animals and rocks have.

They know nothing about the tooth fairy either. Sad.

Childish? How odd that someone who puts their blind faith in a powerful father-figure would call us atheists childish.

Yer all childish, I say

What 'bout pet rocks?

Even rocks have feelings... they can feel God they just can't seem to believe.

It take a higher life form to swim beyond the rock pond and venture into the open sea.

What about pumice...........it can smooth your soul right?

I asked if you thought Atheism is childish, you answered...


First, it's a poorly guised insult. Second, it's still not an answer. It certainly would be the answer if I had asked if you thought atheism is "primitive" or "simple-minded." However, as usual, you have found a way to answer questions that nobody asked, and not answer the questions that are.

The sad part here is that for once, I'm not even asking you to give me evidence, I'm just looking for your opinion. Pretty weak dude.

As a request, I ask that you stop your rhetoric now and return to the topic of this thread. Plese now provide a credible arguement that Atheists...

1) Have uniform beliefs, that can be easily summarized; generalized
2) Worship themselves

Which of course means that you'll probably have to prove that...

3) Human's have a need to worship something

And if you wish to have a credible arguement may I lastly suggest that you demonstrate that...

4) There is more self worship from theists than atheists (assuming you can prove any systematic self-worship takes place at all)

You have my permission at any time to simply admit there is no way you can make a case for the above.

huff*

Fine. I'll stop beating the dead horse. I guess it's time to investigate other topics in the forum. This was just all tooo entertaining.

Rex - You're off the hook. I don't care for your responce, and I won't be checking back to see it.

Are you saying that rocks believe in God too?

Just as animals as wolves live in packs and designate an alpha wolf to guide over them. Humans need this same kind of guiding spirit among them.

Humans congregate in packs (churches) and they naturally gravitate toward an alpha wolf also.

Yet God precedes alpha and exceeds omega...

To accept any less is to relinquish the packs to chaos and anarchy.

When we do not revere God we become wolves all vying for the glory that belongs only to the creator and not the creation.

For instance Jim Jones and his followers look how their story ended up?

This is because they transferred the glory that belongs only to the creator and placed this worship and admonition upon a man. They sincerely followed this man into death. In the end they found that men and women can only represent the image of that which is true... They cannot be the true God.

Just as the atheist seeks after an alpha wolf and when they deny God then something else FALSE will take it's place. (as in a Jim Jones or the self...)

It is part of nature not part of religion only. Humility when rejected becomes ego...

Even wolves are smart enough to relinquish their own self ambitious authority to a seemingly "higher power".

Well done Rex,

You've captured the tribal and chauvinistic essence of religion in a nutshell ! In the absence of evidence for your "imaginary leader" the ensuing chaos it has generated is of course the main reason why sensible people to reject it !

Bad choice of Jim Jones. It would seem you did however choose the one person that illustrates how much self worship religious people exercise, not atheists. I see a lot of "father" Jones qualities in you Rex, you desire to be worshiped yet you parade around acting as if you wish god to be held in glory. You get no credit.

It also reveals the nature of the human condition that no matter the situation man/woman will seek to worship "something".

Just as Adam and Eve worshiped the only thing that they could not obtain. To become as God.

So why not worship something that is invisible and has no shape or form? (Other than love and liberty.) Then this negative energy and propensity of worship becomes directed at something that is actually helpful rather than detrimental to the human psyche...

Atheists exercise the same vehement worship they only direct it toward the self which only masks that fact that they have exalted themSELVES above God. In the same way people exalt a man above God in the pagan trinity people simply exalt themselves.

2Corinthians 10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ [the law of liberty];

No it doesn't !

It reveals there are a lot of sheep about looking for shepherds, and that atheists refuse to be such sheep ! Of course if you are a sheep yourself you will only understand the "baa code".

I have found a new forum online.

I have come home... (This is "the new spiritual wave" I speak of)

These people on this forum are my brothers and sisters in Christ in the sense that we both had the same teacher.

I am reminded of Elijah and the believers that he found when he thought he had been left alone by God.

Once I have made a place for myself in this group I will consider letting all of you "wolves" (just kidding) in to have your way with them. I consider you as my family now also.



In time I will let you in on this new thing.

For now you have to trust the revelation God is giving me. I will be in and out please provoke my responses. I will not forget your need.

I love you all and want to bring you where I am going. We have come a long way together and I will not neglect my duty to those who have sharpened my mind and will with their honest love for the truth.

Besides this forum has a different savor and spice.

Yet these people are nearly exact copies of me... (one mind/unity)

And when I do bring both worlds together it will be a day to remember for a long time... (I do have a large spiritual family)

I have a new name on this forum so you may never find me until I am ready to disclose this location.

Until God tells me it is time...

I am not leaving I am just going to merge two forums of similarly like minded people of God. One forum is of seasoned believers (there) and the other is of a mixture of needy students of God (here). Yet both forums have their missing links so to speak. But the other forum they quote the word of God like it is their own... Like having a few hundred of me.

For now these two places are very different. Night and day. Even my posts are radically different when addressed to each forum. For many things I do not have to lay the ground work to explain for them to understand. Sometimes only a single word relays the concept...

For my brothers and sisters have strayed ever so slightly from the truth and I cannot let you see them in this present state yet. Though you will learn from our discussion there things I have already taught you.

Just as I do not want them to be lit on to you until their minds have been brought back to the truth. (which will not take me long)

For they are extremely educated in the scriptures like I am and they are the greatest source of the truth on the face of the earth today other than the written word of God itself. They seek only this truth so they are easier to bring back to the light than you have been. I do not fault you.. that is why God sicked me on you all. For I can endure anything you throw at me... (hehe) I am spiritually tough.

Anyway regardless it makes for some VERY interesting reading... Many of them on the bible are much more educated than even I am... Yet i seem to have maintained the simplicity of the truth.

I feel like am going through a canal and I need to adjust the level of water in the locks so to equalize the pressure between the two systems.

And it will reveal once and for all where I come from "religiously" (other than the word of God)... It will provide you with a wealth of truth, you have a long way to go. My words will be echoed in theirs and vise versa. You can trust them as you have trusted in me... You will have new criticisms of me.

Something I have purposely neglected to share with you all in the recent days.

I will hold out until God gives me the green light.

Until then let the word of God rise, expand and prevail over the world.