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Do Atheists "Worship" Anything?

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 12:02 pm
fresco wrote:
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It also reveals the nature of the human condition that no matter the situation man/woman will seek to worship "something".


No it doesn't !

It reveals there are a lot of sheep about looking for shepherds, and that atheists refuse to be such sheep ! Of course if you are a sheep yourself you will only understand the "baa code". Smile


What makes you think atheists are less sheep like than any other human?

We all seek the way to holiness.
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 01:56 pm
Not "WE" Rex...."YOU" !
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 02:14 pm
fresco wrote:
Not "WE" Rex...."YOU" !


Hehe

Your protest reveals the insecurity of your position.

We all seek to please God but some choose to please the self instead. Either way it is still the same desire "to please..."
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 03:19 pm
Rex,

There is nothing more to be said, since once again you revert to classic symptoms of projection. You seem to have a problem with your own "faith". I wish you well in resolving it one way or the other.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 04:03 pm
Amen
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I Stereo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 04:13 pm
I love how Rex found a place where everyone agrees with him and yet he thikns of it to be sucha great treasure he won't share it. I guess if the "wolves" knew about a place full of waerheads like Rex, they'd have to go just to destroy it.

Of course the only thing worse than a house made of hay is a house made of hay built on quicksand.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 04:17 pm
If you took hay from the foundation to build the roof of the hut, that would be worse...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 06:22 pm
fresco wrote:
Rex,

There is nothing more to be said, since once again you revert to classic symptoms of projection. You seem to have a problem with your own "faith". I wish you well in resolving it one way or the other.


I have zero problems with my faith. This is the meaning of "the faith of Jesus Christ" is that we have the believing capacity of Jesus Christ.

I love God and God love me..

What more could a person ask for?

Do you love God and do you believe in your heart that this God loves you?

You should...

Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
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I Stereo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2007 08:08 pm
I call bluff Rex.

You are not so comfortable in your faith. In fact I'd be willing to bet my middle name that you are scared shitless of the things that people post here contrary to your ideas. You are so scared, and in your fear you seek control. You very much wish that we had your fear. I'm sorry, it's you with the faith issue, not us.
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 12:51 am
Rex Wrote,
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I love God and God loves me.


Krishnamurti wrote
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Where the self is, love is not.


It is interesting that "organized religion" tends to ignore this point.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Thu 7 Jun, 2007 03:16 pm
Organized religion feeds off the "self": it promises "salvation" or eternal perpetuation of a false self (ego=soul) by means of false beliefs and behavioral formulas. Krishnamurti would free us of the need for such beliefs and formulas.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 03:54 pm
The self is one and until the self becomes zero it will never know God who is the seed of all numbers.

So when we bear the image of zero the self bears the image of God and not the self. So God becomes the self and the self can then comprehend the consciousness of God.

Pantheism is where the world is not created but always was.

Where there never was the state of zero.

We cannot lose the self if we are always one.

We must become zero and then we will embody all numbers as the seed of all numbers.

This is the meaning of stone henge.

It is the seed of time. When days were first reckoned.

Yet even time goes to zero.

In binary logic there is good and evil.

They are not two equal states.

False is not true

The creation is not the creator. The creation is only the creator when the creation by it's own free will decides to bear the image of the creator.

When one bears the image of zero [holy spirit].

We must become the image of creation within the self in order to touch the realm of eternity.

The law of liberty is not finding the self but finding the consciousness of God. In the consciousness of God is the self.

We will not find the self within the self (that is simply liberty) but outside the self

We will not find the self in others.

For all we will see is law, judgment and superficial human faults.

It is only in the perfect spirit and the love that the creator creates within that we will we find the image of God.

It is this image that shines the light within that helps us to see the way and the walk of the law of liberty.

God perfectly aligns the vertical so that the horizontal will be level and equal.

God is the basis of our self so because of God's gracious perfect gift within we walk in the liberty and love of our base of operations in life.

God makes our standing in the family as seed so it never can be removed and so thus consciously our state becomes a balanced walk of liberty.

When we look to the outer beauty and mirror that into the inner beauty the inner beauty becomes an image of the outer imperfection.

But when we take the perfect created inner image and mirror that on the outside then we become the image of the inner beauty.

This inner beauty is the image of the perfect God and not our own image..
We must always seek the image of God over our own for only a perfect image of the self will endure...

For God's image is our true image.

Jesus Christ walked in the image of God..

He is our example of this law of liberty and how we are supposed to walk by the spirit and it's perfect grace.

Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 03:59 pm
Mr Red definitely adores Mr Red
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 04:20 pm
Shocked Ireally worry about the boy. The sense hes not making seems to be taking over his every communication. Jever really listen to Sunday morning Evangelists? Rex is sorta sounding like one of those. Speak loud and just shuffle some words, maybe something will come out besides nonsense. Well, we can always hope.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 04:54 pm
Touch the computer with your plastic jeesis n be HEALED!
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 05:01 pm
Hey.

I've had several women tell me I was a zero.

Joe(or words to that effect)Nation
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 05:49 pm
Come on guys. At least he has not asked us for money.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 10:31 pm
Haha!

So I have a fixation on zero... Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 10:57 pm
I am trying to figure these things out.

In doing so I am going out into territory that is seemingly uncharted.

People talk of ideologies yet they have not figured out their own.

I guess I just do not trust what I see.

I see forces and a world illusion that pulls people in to it and they become products of it unconsciously one way or another.

So we can either become a slave to it or we can go outside of it.

We can go directly to the higher authorities.

Yet these authorities are actually lower. (zero)

They go back to the beginning when all things were created.

We go to creation itself and the unlimited power and the immense reality of that which is. And what we really are created as.

We go to the geometry and the architecture of time and space.

We then have life and the cry of a newborn and the bond of lovers.

We have complexity balanced in perfect order billions of years.

We have a dreaming God.

We have a sleeping world.

We must awaken the world and fulfill the dreams of the divine.

Not our own dreams but the dreams of God's love for us.

God own love in us given to another, no greater gift can be given.

I do not know if this law of liberty is actually the "truth".

It is something that I have believed but never seemed to have the biblical standing.

But it seems the more I study the doctrine of the Bible that this law of liberty that seems to be the very essence and substance of what our faith is.

As body soul and spirit are the mantra of our standing in God

The walk of the law liberty is how we balance our state with God.

For we are under a law.

It is not just liberty...

It is the law of liberty..

So we are judged by the perfect law of liberty.

God => Christ => Us

Self => Self => Self

God => Law => Self

Law => Law => Self

God => law of liberty => Self

Ephesians 5:2
And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jun, 2007 11:35 pm
In the beginning zero created one and darkness was found in one so God cast one out of heaven

One does not live with God because one took images (numbers) and set them above God's own image zero...

Thou shalt have no other Gods before my face.

Love the lord thy God with all...

The law of liberty allows us to walk by the spirit.

For if there is a multitude of law then the spirit is bound but if the spirit is bound only by love then law becomes of no necessity.

Thus we can walk by the spirit and be in perfect unity with God .
Where when the same law that crucified the son of God also set a criminal free we then have no actual faith or trust left in the law but faith in the law of the spirit.

The perfection of the spirit trumps the perfection of the law...

WALK BY THE SPIRIT.

The law is a guide but it cannot be trusted due to the various interpretations and cultures and also the nature of revelation. Revelation needs to be in real-time.

This is not, do as you damned well please.

This is do what pleases God.

Do what harmonizes with the love and walk of Christ.
Feed the hungry, heal the blind, love people and give them hope.

Walk through darkness to lead others to the light.

Become a "living" sacrifice.

Leave behind the self and live for Christ as Christ lived for God.

In living like Christ we become God's hands upon the earth.

For Christ is the head of creation and the saints are his body...

When Christ is raised with the saints then all of the holiness of the past will be raised up and all of the evil will simply have no mind in which to infect.

So evil will fall away inert, harmless... dust.

The lake of fire is that, a place of ash and dust.

For God has no evil in him God gives free will and this includes will outside of his own...

For people become evil when they become a one.

This is making a cistern instead of using the fountain.

This is becoming a self instead of the self becoming God's heart.

We are not God we are God's image. We are equal to God but humble to God.

We operate not by our own will for if we did we would become a one.

And love is the indicator that we are walking in God's image.

The love of God.

The prophecy of God

The word of God
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