Do Atheists "Worship" Anything?

I'm sure I have said this before; there are at least two kinds of atheist:
(1) the one who--probably out of deep resentment for his church upbring (once he discovered the lie of it) chooses to BELIEVE in a No-God and "worships" Him. This involves a kind of counter-religiousity.

This is what I feared.

This is certainly not a system of checks and balances.

You have clearly described a circular system.

A preacher takes out information from the original source. Then delivers it to a person. They personally meta-gestate. But then for clarification they return to the original source.

That loop is not a system of checks and balances.

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STUDY and reason and is at the root of the checks and balances...

No. Accountablility and control of power is the root of checks and balances.

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In other words it is inherently (within) inerrant (without error). For if you believe it is simply full of errors and written by men/woman alone then you will not search diligently for it's truth. So it takes faith in "the word".

So in other words even though there are checks and balances, you shouldn't need them because the word is perfect already? poor arguement.

As for the math stuff, don't push your luck. I can't count how many times I've been told by a biblist that I can't expect science and math to be means to explain the bibles claims. It seems that you only want to discuss math and science when someone uses the word "divide." Your math calim is unimpressive.

No. That's not how this works.

You claimed that the bible has checks and balances. I even gave you the opportunity to defend that claim. You posted what you thought checks and balances were.

Just because I didn't accept what you posted, it does not reveal any fault on my behalf.

The truth is, that you don't seem to know what "checks and balances are." An example of giving a check is how you post things that are incorreect, and a different source altogether fact checks it and returns with a correction.

You have no authority to redefine what things mean nor as you have tried several times in many threads the authority to rewrite history. You need to start being honest.

BTW - don't ever try and lecture me about accountablity. not for my comfort but for your sake. You sound like a fool telling others to be accountable.

Diest TKO wrote:

No. That's not how this works.

You claimed that the bible has checks and balances. I even gave you the opportunity to defend that claim. You posted what you thought checks and balances were.

Just because I didn't accept what you posted, it does not reveal any fault on my behalf.

The truth is, that you don't seem to know what "checks and balances are." An example of giving a check is how you post things that are incorreect, and a different source altogether fact checks it and returns with a correction.

You have no authority to redefine what things mean nor as you have tried several times in many threads the authority to rewrite history. You need to start being honest.

BTW - don't ever try and lecture me about accountablity. not for my comfort but for your sake. You sound like a fool telling others to be accountable.

No you didn't you did not even read what I wrote...

It is no wonder you do not understand the Bible...

Here is only one example of how you do not read with understanding what I wrote...

I did not say the word of God is mathematical or scientific.

I said it FITS TOGETHER with mathematical accuracy and scientific precision.

Now read what I wrote again or I will just consider you a lost cause...

Fool?

Mirror

Yes...

Atheists may protest and say how can we be accused of worshiping anything when we do not believe in God?

Yet they just transfer this admonition energy to themselves or they "obsess" over, their family, their car or maybe even a Nobel Peace prize... Or some public recognition for their own vain self made greatness and a BIG pat on the back. They seek the honors of men rather than the honor of God... Yet it is still WORSHIP to the same degree.

Atheists stand in ridicule and judgment of others who choose to worship a "higher" power while they (atheists) themselves set their own affections on earthly objects and ideals.

This simply is a source of self made pride rather than Godly pride.. Where they reflect their own image rather than relinquishing their own desire for glory to something that does not inflate the self ego.

In God we trust...

I read it twice. I just read it again.

RexRed wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:

No. That's not how this works.

You claimed that the bible has checks and balances. I even gave you the opportunity to defend that claim. You posted what you thought checks and balances were.

Just because I didn't accept what you posted, it does not reveal any fault on my behalf.

The truth is, that you don't seem to know what "checks and balances are." An example of giving a check is how you post things that are incorreect, and a different source altogether fact checks it and returns with a correction.

You have no authority to redefine what things mean nor as you have tried several times in many threads the authority to rewrite history. You need to start being honest.

BTW - don't ever try and lecture me about accountablity. not for my comfort but for your sake. You sound like a fool telling others to be accountable.

No you didn't you did not even read what I wrote...

It is no wonder you do not understand the Bible...

I DID read your ridiculous post. I read it twice. I just read it again. It is FALSE. You don't know what checks and balances means.

I understand the bible better than you friend. You may know a better collection of the words inside, but I know it's worth. zero.

Next...

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Here is only one example of how you do not read with understanding what I wrote...

I did not say the word of God is mathematical or scientific.

I said it FITS TOGETHER with mathematical accuracy and scientific precision.

I'm not sure if this is you trying to correct me, but even if I attacked something that you didn't say, ou have corrected me with a even more unfounded statement. Both staements are false, and if you would like to find and post my reply to your math statement, I'm sure it would still apply to your newly corrected one.

WTF does "fits together" mean in this example. "Mathmatical accuracy" as opposed to what other type of accuracy? Same goes for science. The truth is that you have no proof, no reason for anyone to take your claims to be valid. You use words like "math" and "science" with reckless abandon as a pathetic attempt to leverage some credibility, but when asked to back it up you colapse.

It's sad, I'm I'm just calling it as it is.

Now stop lying.

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Now read what I wrote again or I will just consider you a lost cause...

Fool?

Mirror

I did reread, as I stated earlier. Your post is impotented and false. Your bad, not mine. I'm comfortable with the mirror, It's you that can't handle the critisism here.

I can back up what I'm saying. I can look myself in the eyes all day.

Now stop lying.

RexRed wrote:

Yes...

Atheists may protest and say how can we be accused of worshiping anything when we do not believe in God?

Yet they just transfer this admonition energy to themselves or they "obsess" over, their family, their car or maybe even a Nobel Peace prize... Or some public recognition for their own vain self made greatness and a BIG pat on the back. They seek the honors of men rather than the honor of God... Yet it is still WORSHIP to the same degree.

Atheists stand in ridicule and judgment of others who choose to worship a "higher" power while they (atheists) themselves set their own affections on earthly objects and ideals.

This simply is a source of self made pride rather than Godly pride.. Where they reflect their own image rather than relinquishing their own desire for glory to something that does not inflate the self ego.

In God we trust...

Whether any of this is true or not is entirely beside the point. Rex, if this god you worship does not exist...are you still the "better" person? Until you are able to invoke some empathy, and see the world from an atheists point of view, you will continue to miss the point.

REX - Whatever dude. I've given you more than you deserve. You have had more patience shown towards you for your words than you deserve.

Until you learn about the world you barely have the privilage to read my content let alone critique it.

I have posted several times now how you are wrong, I don't need to do it again and again, and again. If you don't get it by the tenth time, you're just not going to get it.

You've been proven as a liar. You continue to prove yourself to a insecure magalomaniacal hypocrite.

Now, Stop lying.

Yes...

Atheists may protest and say how can we be accused of worshiping anything when we do not believe in God?

Yet they just transfer this admonition energy to themselves or they "obsess" over, their family, their car or maybe even a Nobel Peace prize... Or some public recognition for their own vain self made greatness and a BIG pat on the back. They seek the honors of men rather than the honor of God... Yet it is still WORSHIP to the same degree.

Atheists stand in ridicule and judgment of others who choose to worship a "higher" power while they (atheists) themselves set their own affections on earthly objects and ideals.

This simply is a source of self made pride rather than Godly pride.. Where they reflect their own image rather than relinquishing their own desire for glory to something that does not inflate the self ego.

In God we trust...

Eorl wrote:

RexRed wrote:

Yes...

Atheists may protest and say how can we be accused of worshiping anything when we do not believe in God?

Yet they just transfer this admonition energy to themselves or they "obsess" over, their family, their car or maybe even a Nobel Peace prize... Or some public recognition for their own vain self made greatness and a BIG pat on the back. They seek the honors of men rather than the honor of God... Yet it is still WORSHIP to the same degree.

Atheists stand in ridicule and judgment of others who choose to worship a "higher" power while they (atheists) themselves set their own affections on earthly objects and ideals.

This simply is a source of self made pride rather than Godly pride.. Where they reflect their own image rather than relinquishing their own desire for glory to something that does not inflate the self ego.

In God we trust...

Whether any of this is true or not is entirely beside the point. Rex, if this god you worship does not exist...are you still the "better" person? Until you are able to invoke some empathy, and see the world from an atheists point of view, you will continue to miss the point.

God exists in that people relinquish their own prideful existence for a humble existence.

This is EVIDENCE of the profit of God in action...

Without God there cannot be true humility of mind.

Here is an example: I DO NOT LOVE YOU!

No, it is not I that loves you but God loving you through me...

Even love itself is a form of ego. Only with the love of God in us can human love rise above the innate nature and the propensity of self ego...

Here is an example: I DO NOT LOVE YOU!

RexRed wrote:

Yes...

Atheists may protest and say how can we be accused of worshiping anything when we do not believe in God?

Yet they just transfer this admonition energy to themselves or they "obsess" over, their family, their car or maybe even a Nobel Peace prize... Or some public recognition for their own vain self made greatness and a BIG pat on the back. They seek the honors of men rather than the honor of God... Yet it is still WORSHIP to the same degree.

Atheists stand in ridicule and judgment of others who choose to worship a "higher" power while they (atheists) themselves set their own affections on earthly objects and ideals.

This simply is a source of self made pride rather than Godly pride.. Where they reflect their own image rather than relinquishing their own desire for glory to something that does not inflate the self ego.

In God we trust...

Whether any of this is true or not is entirely beside the point. Rex, if this god you worship does not exist...are you still the "better" person? Until you are able to invoke some empathy, and see the world from an atheists point of view, you will continue to miss the point.