Top US Senate Democrat to Bush: Iraq war is lost

Bush isn't "handcuffed" by the dems. Where did you learn your civics?

Bringing the troops home to their families so they don't become one of the increasing number of casualties...

This is to their detriment?

Bushes willingness to hold the troops hostage--using their welfare as a way to hold out against the will of the majority of the American people (and the majority of Congress) is to the their detriment.

Bush is making it clear that he would rather the troops die without funding, then to accept the will of the majority of the American people who have made it very clear that they no longer support this war.

Ending the occupation of Iraq, which has killed over 3,200 US soldiers with no "victory" in sight, is not to the "detriment" of the troops.

More and more, the troops themselves are saying this.

Harry Reid is a dick.

Harry Reid is a dick.

So what of Iraq if we tuck tail, cower and run? Do those on the left still have that so called compassion or is "free tibet" no longer in vogue?

You say Bush would rather troops "die without funding" yet its congress who funds the war and this present congress threatening to NOT fund the troops. But you blame Bush..... how odd.

Your majority also does not want us to retreat in failure as some on the left are hoping for.....

BTW who are these "more and more" troops? How many have you spoken to and how do you back up this claim?

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So what of Iraq if we tuck tail, cower and run? Do those on the left still have that so called compassion or is "free tibet" no longer in vogue?

The Democrats in Congress are saying with the bill that they will pass this week that have no intention to "tuck tail, cower or run". Bush is going to have to accept that.

I don't get why you think "Free Tibet" is a good example of what is happening in Iraq.

The people of Tibet are occupied by a foreign military force from a superior military power that says they need to be their for Tibet's best interest. The majority of the people of Tibet want the Chinese to leave.

What does this have to do with the crisis in Iraq?

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You say Bush would rather troops "die without funding" yet its congress who funds the war and this present congress threatening to NOT fund the troops. But you blame Bush..... how odd.

Congress will fully fund a withdrawral. When the troops are withdrawn, they will stop dying.

The fact that the troops are being kept in Iraq indefinately against the will of the majority of Americans is without question Bush's fault.

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Your majority also does not want us to retreat in failure as some on the left are hoping for.....

Without question the majority of Americans want the US to withdraw within a set time. This is proved by the polls... and if you don't believe the polls it was also proven by the last election where the Democrats (unexpectedly) took control of both houses of Congress.

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BTW who are these "more and more" troops? How many have you spoken to and how do you back up this claim?

I will let you do the Googling. Search for Veterans against the war.

Well Rev, it looks like we are from different planets.

All I can say is let's watch what happens.

On my planet, the American public is about to rally behind the Democrats as the Republican popularity ratings continue to sink. Last year on my planet, the Demcratic victories were heralded by the press, bemoaned by the right and considered quite impressive by all.

On my planet, the president will use his veto power... and the Democrats will pass a short term emergency bill which will make the Republicans go on record in favor of the war every three months or so.

On my planet, conservatives will continue in a political death spiral where they will increasingly break ranks against the president and more and more will viciously attack each other.

reverend hellh0und

When were you last in Iraq?? If you haven't been, since you are hellbent for US forces to stay their. Why not put your ass on the line and volunteer.