CI,
I propose to describe a Universe that had no beginning. One that is "Mechanical". One that requires no "Creator",no "Prime Mover" no "beginning of time", no metaphysical concepts. Within this Universe there can be no sin and evil is merely a conditioned response to different randomized interactions of matter and energies.
But I will wait a bit and see if ILZ, ebrowne,or Terry show up. I think that I understand the mechanics of the thing quite well. The math to show the obvious is not so obvious to me
. It' is rough.
Unless somebody want to try a different one we can start tomorrow.
See why we need a description or definition of conception? M.