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PET FOOD ALERT

 
 
Reyn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 05:08 pm
littlek wrote:
I would be hard-pressed to make food for my cat as he's diabetic and his gluc-insulin is nicely balanced at this point.

You have a good point, Kris. One has to make sure that the food is properly balanced in nuitrition.

I don't think everybody is cut out to make their own pet's food. I believe most will just move over to brands that are not made by Menu Foods. Also, a lot of us can't afford to go organic.

One of our cats was already on Whiskas (made by Effem Inc), so we decided to move the other on the same, too. Since the former needs to be on a lower fat diet, we were surprised that the Whiskas was only 1% different than the brand we were previously using before that. So, both of our guys are doing well with the change and seem to be okay with it.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 05:10 pm
If he weren't diabetic, I'd switch him to home cooking for a week yet. Let the chips fall before putting him back on store bought food.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 05:15 pm
That article I linked does distinguish between dogs (omnivores - osso says well, mostly, skip onions and chocolate and check websites) and cats, which have specific nutritional needs. Check it out.
No, not you, Kris, good grief.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 05:43 pm
I've long fed my dogs Pedigree. So far, I don't think that one's mentioned among the tainted.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 08:24 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
I've long fed my dogs Pedigree. So far, I don't think that one's mentioned among the tainted.

Edgar, you're fine. This is from the Pedigree website:

Quote:
Dog lovers,

We would like you to know that PEDIGREE® Food For Dogs is not a part of the recent nationwide pet food recall initiated by Menu Foods and other companies. The safety of products not involved in the recall was validated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on March 23, 2007. According to the FDA, pet owners should feel confident feeding unrecalled products to their pets. All of our PEDIGREE® products remain a safe, nutritious and delicious way to feed your best friends. [...]
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 09:33 pm
Now Im really flumoxed, cyanourotriamine is a monomer that, reacted with formaldehyde and alcohol, makes kistchen cabinet tops like formica. I see that, because of its active N (its a cyclic triple nitrogen compound) it is used as a fertilizer, but I dont know why theyd use it in wheat since its a huge source of free N, (which isnt seed producing, and would cause wheat to grow fast with a weak stem) Unless this is all they got.
Boy those crazy chinese, they have all this available monomer so they decide to use it to create shitty wheat. My mom used to have melmac dinnerware foreating out in the backyard. UNbreakable.

Sounds like theyre still just guessing.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 2 Apr, 2007 10:39 pm
I dunno if that was a deliberate move or a contaminant...

sits here in state of wonder...
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 3 Apr, 2007 02:15 am
farmerman wrote:
Now Im really flumoxed, cyanourotriamine is a monomer that, reacted with formaldehyde and alcohol, makes kistchen cabinet tops like formica. I see that, because of its active N (its a cyclic triple nitrogen compound) it is used as a fertilizer, but I dont know why theyd use it in wheat since its a huge source of free N, (which isnt seed producing, and would cause wheat to grow fast with a weak stem) Unless this is all they got.
Boy those crazy chinese, they have all this available monomer so they decide to use it to create shitty wheat. My mom used to have melmac dinnerware foreating out in the backyard. UNbreakable.

Sounds like theyre still just guessing.
What do the Chinese and spindly non-seeding wheat growth presumably promoted by cyanourotriamine have to do with the dog food problem, and who are the "they" you refer to? Thanks!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 3 Apr, 2007 06:53 am
Chum-Its been said that the use of melamine (which ws reportedly used as a fertilizer in China) was found in the tainted wheat which was included in the tainted doggy foods. However, using melamine by "they" (the Chinese) makes no ag -chemical sense because its a source of N which forces vegetative growth with little seed. Its a dumb idea unless they were just shooting to grow grass.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 3 Apr, 2007 01:57 pm
Gratitude!
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 10:04 am
Bigger than you think: The story behind the pet food recall
Bigger than you think: The story behind the pet food recall
By Christie Keith, Special to SF Gate
Tuesday, April 3, 2007

The March 16 recall of 91 pet food products manufactured by Menu Foods wasn't big news at first. Early coverage reported only 10-15 cats and dogs dying after eating canned and pouched foods manufactured by Menu. The foods were recalled -- among them some of the country's best-known and biggest-selling brands -- and while it was certainly a sad story, and maybe even a bit of a wake-up call about some aspects of pet food manufacturing, that was about it.

At first, that was it for me, too. But I'm a contributing editor for a nationally syndicated pet feature, Universal Press Syndicate's Pet Connection, and all of us there have close ties to the veterinary profession. Two of our contributors are vets themselves, including Dr. Marty Becker, the vet on "Good Morning America." And what we were hearing from veterinarians wasn't matching what we were hearing on the news.

When we started digging into the story, it quickly became clear that the implications of the recall were much larger than they first appeared. Most critically, it turned out that the initially reported tally of dead animals only included the cats and dogs who died in Menu's test lab and not the much larger number of affected pets.

Second, the timeline of the recall raised a number of concerns. Although there have been some media reports that Menu Foods started getting complaints as early as December 2006, FDA records state the company received their first report of a food-related pet death on February 20.

One week later, on February 27, Menu started testing the suspect foods. Three days later, on March 3, the first cat in the trial died of acute kidney failure. Three days after that, Menu switched wheat gluten suppliers, and 10 days later, on March 16, recalled the 91 products that contained gluten from their previous source.

Nearly one month passed from the date Menu got its first report of a death to the date it issued the recall. During that time, no veterinarians were warned to be on the lookout for unusual numbers of kidney failure in their patients. No pet owners were warned to watch their pets for its symptoms. And thousands and thousands of pet owners kept buying those foods and giving them to their dogs and cats.

At that point, Menu had seen a 35 percent death rate in their test-lab cats, with another 45 percent suffering kidney damage. The overall death rate for animals in Menu's tests was around 20 percent. How many pets, eating those recalled foods, had died, become ill or suffered kidney damage in the time leading up to the recall and in the days since? The answer to that hasn't changed since the day the recall was issued: We don't know.

We at Pet Connection knew the 10-15 deaths being reported by the media did not reflect an accurate count. We wanted to get an idea of the real scope of the problem, so we started a database for people to report their dead or sick pets. On March 21, two days after opening the database, we had over 600 reported cases and more than 200 reported deaths. As of March 31, the number of deaths alone was at 2,797.

There are all kinds of problems with self-reported cases, and while we did correct for a couple of them, our numbers are not considered "confirmed." But USA Today reported on March 25 that data from Banfield, a nationwide chain of over 600 veterinary hospitals, "suggests [the number of cases of kidney failure] is as high as hundreds a week during the three months the food was on the market."

On March 28, "NBC News" featured California veterinarian Paul Pion, who surveyed the 30,000 members of his national Veterinary Information Network and told anchor Tom Costello, "If what veterinarians are suspecting are cases, then it's much larger than anything we've seen before." Costello commented that it amounted to "potentially thousands of sick or dead pets."

The FDA was asked about the numbers at a press conference it held on Friday morning to announce that melamine had been found in the urine and tissues of some affected animals as well as in the foods they tested. Dr. Stephen Sundlof, director of the Center for Veterinary Medicine, told reporters that the FDA couldn't confirm any cases beyond the first few, even though they had received over 8,800 additional reports, because "we have not had the luxury of confirming these reports." They would work on that, he said, after they "make sure all the product is off the shelves." He pointed out that in human medicine, the job of defining what constitutes a confirmed case would fall to the Centers for Disease Control, but there is no CDC for animals.

Instead, pet owners were encouraged to report deaths and illness to the FDA. But when they tried to file reports, there was no place on the agency's Web site to do so and nothing but endless busy signals when people tried to call.

Veterinarians didn't fare much better. They were asked to report cases to their state veterinarian's office, but one feline veterinary blog, vetcetera, which surveyed all official state veterinarian Web sites, found that only eight had any independent information about the recall, and only 24 even mentioned it at all. Only one state, Vermont, had a request on their site for veterinarians to report pets whose illnesses or deaths they suspect are related to the recall. And as of today, there is no longer a notice that veterinarians should report suspected cases to their state veterinarians on the Web site of the American Veterinary Medical Association.

The lack of any notification system was extremely hard on veterinarians, many of whom first heard about the problem on the news or from their clients. Professional groups such as the Veterinary Information Network were crucial in disseminating information about the recall to their members, but not all vets belong to VIN, and not all vets log on to VIN on the weekend (the Menu press release, like most corporate or government bad news, was issued on a Friday).

But however difficult this recall has been for veterinarians, no one has felt its impact more than the owners of affected dogs and cats. While the pet media and bloggers continued to push the story, the most powerful force driving it was the grief of pet owners, many of them fueled by anger because they felt that their pet's death or illness wasn't being counted.

Many of them were also being driven by a feeling of guilt. At Pet Connection, we received a flood of stories from owners whose pets became ill with kidney failure, and who took them to the vet. The dogs or cats were hospitalized and treated, often at great expense -- sometimes into the thousands of dollars -- and then, when they were finally well enough, sent home.

For some, the story ended there. But for others, there was one more horrifying chapter. Because kidney failure causes nausea, it's often hard to get recovering pets to eat. So a lot of these owners got down on their hands and knees and coaxed and begged and eventually hand-fed their pets the very same food that had made them sick. Those animals ended up right back in the hospital and died, because their loving owners didn't know that the food was tainted.

To many pet owners, the pet food recall story is a personal tragedy about the potentially avoidable loss of a beloved dog or cat. Others have a hard time seeing the story as anything more than that -- with implications beyond the feelings of those grieving pet owners. Which brings us to the bigger picture, and questions -- not about what happened but about the system.

How did this problem, now involving almost every large pet food company in the United States, including some of the most trusted -- and expensive -- brands, get so out of hand? How come pet owners weren't informed more rapidly about the contaminated pet food? Why is it so hard to get accurate numbers of affected animals? Why didn't veterinarians get any notification? Where did the system break down?

The issue may not be that the system broke down, but that there isn't really a system.

There is, as the FDA pointed out, no veterinary version of the CDC. This meant the FDA kept confirming a number it had to have known was only the tip of the iceberg. It prevented veterinarians from having the information they needed to treat their patients and advise pet owners. It allowed the media to repeat a misleadingly low number, creating a false sense of security in pet owners -- and preventing a lot of people from really grasping the scope and implication of the problem.

And it was why Rosie O'Donnell felt free to comment last week on "The View": "Fifteen cats and one dog have died, and it's been all over the news. And you know, since that date, 29 soldiers have died, and we haven't heard much about them. No. I think that we have the wrong focus in the country. That when pets are killed in America from some horrific poisoning accident, 16 of them, it's all over the news and people are like, 'The kitty! It's so sad.' Twenty-nine sons and daughters killed since that day, it's not newsworthy. I don't understand."

In fact, Rosie didn't understand. She didn't understand that the same government she blames for sending America's sons and daughters to die in Iraq is the government that told her only 15 animals had died, and that the story was about a pet "poisoning accident" and not a systemic failure of FEMA-esque proportions.

Think that's going too far? Maybe not. On Sunday night, April 1, Pet Connection got a report from one of its blog readers, Joy Drawdy, who said that she had found an import alert buried on the FDA Web site. That alert, issued on Friday, the same day that the FDA held its last press conference about the recall, identified the Chinese company that is the source of the contaminated gluten -- gluten that is now known to be sold not only for use in animal feed, but in human food products, too. (The Chinese company is now denying that they are responsible, although they are investigating it.)

Although the FDA said on Friday it has no reason to think the contaminated gluten found its way into the human food supply, Sundlof told reporters that it couldn't be ruled out. He also assured us that they would notify the public as soon as they had any more information -- except, of course, that they did have more information and didn't give it to us, publishing it instead as an obscure import alert, found by chance by a concerned pet owner, which was then spread to the larger media.

All of which begs the question: If a system to report and track had been in place for animal illness, would this issue have emerged sooner? Even lacking a reporting and tracking system, if the initial news reports had included, as so many human stories do, suspected or estimated cases from credible sources, it's likely this story would have been taken more seriously and not just by Rosie O'Donnell. It may turn out that our dogs and cats were the canaries in the coal mine of an enormous system failure -- one that could have profound impacts on American food manufacturing and safety in the years to come.
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Christie Keith is a contributing editor for Universal Press Syndicate's Pet Connection and past director of the Pet Care Forum on America Online. She lives in San Francisco.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/04/03/petscol.DTL
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 10:16 am
Maddy is OK
I took my two dogs, Dolly and Madison, to the vet yesterday.

About two weeks ago, Maddy started peeing all over the house as if he couldn't hold his urine in. He's always been good about asking to go outside. He was peeing on the floor, furniture, walls, curtains, etc.

My dogs have been raised on a dry dog food not on the recall list so I didn't connect it to the poison issue. But Maddy's behavior was so out of character for him, I became worried. The vet physically examined Maddy, looking for kidney stones, etc., checked his temperature and took a urine sample to be sure he didn't have an infection. Everything tested OK.

Dolly, who consumes the same as Maddy, has no symptions. Neither dog has signs of any sort of illness. I recalled that Dys and Diane's dog Sally was doing the peeing thing about three weeks ago. They took Sally to the vet and discovered she had an infection. I wondered if that was what was ailing Maddy.

It cost me a bundle to have them checked out but at least I know they are OK despite Maddy's odd behavior.

The vet said they've had several dogs and cats brought in with kidney failure and very sick who were fed foods on the recall list. They were all saved, but the vet is worried about what is happening.

BBB
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Miller
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 10:48 am
Since only the male dog has a problem, and both dogs ate the same dog food, it looks like it's a gender-specific problem.

Could it be the dog is getting older?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 10:54 am
Miller wrote:
Since only the male dog has a problem, and both dogs ate the same dog food, it looks like it's a gender-specific problem.

Could it be the dog is getting older?


Maddy will be four years old later this year. He is Bichon Frieze. Dolly will be three years old this year. She is a Japanese Chin.

BBB
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Miller
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 11:04 am
That's not old.

If it's not a UTI, it's likely that the male may have eaten more dog food, or he ate the most salty part of the food and the salt ( etc ) acted as a diuretic.

Depending on the breed of dog, some dogs will pee all over the place just to "get even" with their owners, because they've had their feelings hurt. Many poodle owners see this kind of behavior with their dogs.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 11:24 am
Miller
Miller wrote:
That's not old.

If it's not a UTI, it's likely that the male may have eaten more dog food, or he ate the most salty part of the food and the salt ( etc ) acted as a diuretic.
Depending on the breed of dog, some dogs will pee all over the place just to "get even" with their owners, because they've had their feelings hurt. Many poodle owners see this kind of behavior with their dogs.


Thanks for your input Miller, it's appreciated.

I tried to thing of any change in the dog's lives but could not find any that could account for the change in Maddy's behavior. He is a very loving and gentle dog and watches out for Dolly, who can't stand to be separated from him.

Their dry food is in two bowls on the floor for them any time they are hungry. They only eat when hungry and in fairly small amounts. Their weights are normal for their size. They are not drinking more water than usual.

They get plenty of exercise playing together in the house and in the back yard. It's difficult for me to take them for walks. They receive lots of loving attention and play from me as I am retired and always with them. They love to go for rides in the car and like playing with guests in our house.

BBB
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Miller
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 11:39 am
Your dogs are lucky to have such a loving home. :wink:
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Apr, 2007 11:52 am
Miller
Miller wrote:
Your dogs are lucky to have such a loving home. :wink:


I'm lucky to have such wonderful dogs. They are good company for an old woman.

BBB Smile
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 05:59 pm
Dog biscuits added to recall list
Dog biscuits added to recall list
POSTED: 6:27 p.m. EDT, April 5, 2007
Story Highlights• NEW: Recall expands to include dog biscuits, more Menu Foods products

(CNN) -- The Food and Drug Administration announced on Thursday it has identified additional contaminated pet food products -- dog biscuits made by Sunshine Mills of Red Bay, Alabama.

The dog biscuits are contaminated with potentially toxic wheat gluten, said Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine. He said more details on which products are affected would be available later Thursday.

Sunshine Mills did not immediately return calls from CNN seeking comment.

The FDA also said Menu Foods is expanding its recall of a wide variety of products by widening the range of manufacturing dates in the recall. The company said it will announce the new recall dates later Thursday.

Menu Foods recalled 60 million cans of wet pet food on March 16 after the chemical melamine, which can be toxic in high doses, showed up in federal testing of some of its cat and dog food varieties. (Details on recall)

Since then, Nestlé Purina PetCare Company, Del Monte Pet Products and Hill's Pet Nutrition have also recalled some products.

The FDA said it has no evidence that wheat gluten contaminated with melamine has entered the human food supply. Melamine is a toxic agent used to make fertilizers and plastic utensils.

Sundlof said the number of pet deaths confirmed as being related to the recall remains at 16 despite reports in the thousands from veterinarians across the country. Menu Foods spokeswoman Sarah Tuite told CNN that one dog and 15 cats have died.

The pet owner community Web site www.petconnection.com said it has received reports of 3,240 pet deaths related to the recall. The causes of those deaths have not been confirmed by government officials.

The Michigan Veterinary Medical Association said it suspects 46 animals -- 33 cats and 13 dogs -- in Michigan have died due to ingestion of the contaminated food, and Oregon's public health veterinarian, Dr. Emilio DeBess, said he suspects 38 pet deaths reported in that state are linked to the allegedly toxic food.

Both emphasized that the link between pet deaths in their states and the recalled food has not yet been confirmed.

Pets who have consumed products recalled by Menu Foods Inc. and who have experienced various stages of kidney dysfunction qualify as suspected cases, the Oregon Veterinary Medical Association said.

Glenn Kolb, executive director of the association, told CNN Thursday he thinks the number of new cases is dropping, but the numbers may still rise.

"What we're starting to find is that veterinarians are going into some of the back records where they had cases that were maybe puzzling to them. Now with the pet food recall information coming out, they're starting to look at those cases again," he said.

Wednesday, plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit against Menu Foods related to the recall added fraud to the charges, their attorneys said. They are alleging the company may have known as early as December that there were problems with its product.

Menu Foods had no comment on the lawsuit.

The class action suit was filed March 20 in the Northern District of Illinois.

After the Food and Drug Administration and Menu Foods announced last week that melamine was found in the pet foods, the melamine was traced to wheat gluten imported from Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Company Ltd., a company based in China's Jiangshu province. (Watch how the toxic food was traced to China )

The Chinese company distributed the wheat gluten with the help of U.S. nutritional and pharmaceutical chemical importer ChemNutra Inc., a Las Vegas-based company.

The company has said the claims of harmful substances in its product were "rumors." However, it added that it had sent samples of the substance to labs for testing.

The Food and Drug Administration has directed inspectors to halt all wheat gluten imports from the company.

The FDA said it has received more than 10,000 consumer complaints.

A list of the cat food and dog food products involved in the recall is online at www.menufoods.com/recall.

CNN's Miriam Falco contributed to this report.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 5 Apr, 2007 06:06 pm
Safe Pet Food list
The following are pet food brands that are not involved in the recall and the manufacturers assure their safety:

All Purina dry dog and cat food
Royal Canin
Premium Edge
Breeder's Choice
Solid Gold
Natura Brand
Canidae
Wellness
Newman's Own
Whiskas

Safe dog food on their list:Safe cat food on their list:

Annamaet cat food
Artemis company
Back to basics
Breeder's Choice
By Nature
Evangers
Natural Life
Nature's Logic
Nature's Recipe
Petguard
Nutrisource
Sheba
Bil-Jac
Chicken Soup
Eagle Pack
Sensible Choice
Fromm
Halo
Innova
NutriSource
Precise
Premium Edge
TimberWolf Organics
VeRUS
Wellness
Wysong
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