Are you Afraid of Jews in the US?

Anton is peddling antisemitic propaganda whether or not he knows it. He alleges, without providing a source, that Israel receives two thirds of U.S. foreign aid. However, i found this at Google Answers:

Here are the top 16 recipients of U.S. foreign aid for 2005:

1. Israel 2.58 Billion
2. Egypt 1.84 Billion
3. Afganistan 0.98 Billion
4. Pakistan 0.70 Billion
5. Colombia 0.57 Billion
6. Sudan 0.50 Billion
7. Jordan 0.48 Billion
8. Uganda 0.25 Billion
9. Kenya 0.24 Billion
10. Ethiopia 0.19 Billion
11. South Africa 0.19 Billion
12. Peru 0.19 Billion
13. Indonesia 0.18 Billion
14. Bolivia 0.18 Billion
15. Nigeria 0.18 Billion
16. Zambia 0.18 Billion

source:
CRS Report for Congress: Foreign Aid: An Introductory Overview of U.S.
Programs and Policy Updated January 19, 2005, page 14
http://shelby.senate.gov/legislation/ForeignAid.pdf


Here are the top 16 recipients of U.S. foreign aid for 2004:

1. Iraq 18.44 Billion
2. Israel 2.62 Billion
3. Egypt 1.87 Billion
4. Afghanistan 1.77 Billion
5. Colombia 0.57 Billion
6. Jordan 0.56 Billion
7. Pakistan 0.39 Billion
8. Liberia 0.21 Billion
9. Peru 0.17 Billion
10. Ethiopia 0.16 Billion
11. Bolivia 0.15 Billion
12. Turkey 0.15 Billion
13. Uganda 0.14 Billion
14. Sudan 0.14 Billion
15. Indonesia 0.13 Billion
16. Kenya 0.13 Billion

source:
CRS Report for Congres:: Foreign Aid: An Introductory Overview of U.S.
Programs and Policy, April 15, 2004, page 13
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/trade/files/98-916.pdf


Here are the top 15 recipients of U.S. foreign aid for 2001:

1. Israel 2.82 Billion
2. Egypt 1.987 Billion
3. Jordan 0.227 Billion
4. Kosovo 0.184 Billion
5. Ukraine 0.178 Billion
6. Russia 0.174 Billion
7. Indonesia 0.149 Billion
8. Ethiopia 0.124 Billion
9. India 0.122 Billion
10. Georgia 0.107 Billion
11. Bangladesh 0.101 Billion
12. Serbia 0.10 Billion
13. Peru 0.097 Billion
14. Armenia 0.092 Billion
15. Bosnia 0.089 Billion

CRS Report for Congress: Foreign Aid: An Introductory Overview of U.S.
Programs and Policy Updated April 6, 2001, page 12
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/crs/98-916_010406.pdf

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Note that Iraq was not included in the list for 2005. If you look at the 2004 list, Iraq received more than six times the amount of foreign aid as did Israel. Even if Iraq is eliminated from the list, Isreal does not receive anything remotely resembling two thirds of U.S. foreign aid, and the second place on the list, close behind Israel, is Egypt--which gives a very strong impression that the United States is spending money to keep a balance of power in the middle east.

Anton, if you're going to discuss subjects such as this, i suggest that you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff--that you learn what is propaganda, and what is likely truth because there is a reliable source. Whatever your source for the two thirds of U.S. foreign aid was, it was bullshit, it was a lie, and very likely was motivated by antisemitism.

Just incredible, Anton. The evidence i provided clearly shows that the Israelis don't receive one third of American foreign aid, either. And you assume that you know immediately how i will react to a link you provide--that is judging someone in advance--pre-judging, i.e., and exercise in prejudice.

And in fact, your prejudice will serve to blind you, which is usually the case. I oppose the policies of the Israeli government--i have opposed the policies of the Israeli government for more than 25 years, since the return to militarism after the Camp David agreement. I have a consistent record of being an outspoken opponent of Israeli government policies at this site. That doesn't mean, however, that i rely upon bullshit statements about the amount of American foreign aid which Israel receives. One of the problems with peddling bullshit is that you may have a good point to make, but your message won't get through because it will sink under the weight of the bullshit which you pile on it. No one is likely to get a reasonable message from you when you make wild statements which are so easily shot down.

Setanta,

I think you are being a bit hard on Anton. Your own data amply demonstrates that excluding Afghanistan and Iraq, which until 2002 received virtually no US aid at all, Israelis, on a per capita basis, receive a grossly disproportionate share of US aid. Moreover, Israel, a highly developed country hardly needs any aid at all - compared to the situations of many other nations. In addition the aid figures usually omit the billion or so in credits we give Israel annually for the purchase of military equipment here. Finally Israeli exoprts to the United States reveive more favorable treatment than those of any other nation in the world.

Noting this is hardly the hallmark of an anti Semite.

3-05-07
Is Israel Falling Apart?
By Dror Wahrman

Foreign observers of Israel tend to focus so intently on the dangers the country faces from its Arab neighbours that they have largely missed an astonishing story that has been accelerating over the past few months: that of the Jewish state's possible move toward internal collapse. If you consider this an exaggeration, just take note of what the past couple of weeks have brought about. A few days ago the chief of the Israeli police resigned after an investigation that found several of Israel's highest police officers guilty of corruption and negligence. This came within a week of the forced resignation of Israel's Chief of Staff from the military because of the fiascos of the second Lebanon war. It was also some ten days after Israel's minister of justice was convicted of sexual assault while on duty, and a couple of weeks after Israel's president - who holds a largely symbolic position - resigned temporarily following charges of rape and sexual misconduct. It was also the same day that the head of Israel's tax authority resigned because of possible corruption charges. In the meantime, several other investigations are still pending, not least two or three directed at the Prime Minister himself, Ehud Olmert, concerning corruption and favoritism. And an appeal to the Supreme Court has already been filed against the minister of police's choice for a new police chief - again, because of old charges of corruption of which the nominee had been acquitted only through a particularly narrow benefit of the doubt.

POLL: Gallup Iraq & Jewish Americans

Pollster.com
February 23, 2007

Additional analysis from thirteen recent Gallup national surveys of 12,061 adults including 303 Jewish Americans (conducted 2005 through 2007) finds:

• 77% of Jewish Americans think the U.S. "made a mistake in sending troops to Iraq;" 21% think it was not a mistake.
  
• 89% of Jewish Democrats oppose the war, while 78% of non-Jewish Democrats oppose the war.
  
• 65% of Jewish non-Democrats oppose the war, while 38% of non-Jewish non-Democrats oppose the war.
  
• Gallup's Jeffrey M. Jones writes, "Among the major religious groups in the United States, Jewish Americans are the most strongly opposed to the Iraq war."

You are an arrogant pr*ck from what i can see. You said you stood corrected, and turned right around to allege that Israel receives one third of U.S. foreign aid, which is clearly bullshit, from the information which has already been provided.

Then you proceed to sneer at me by making a prejudicial remark based on an assumption about what i do or don't believe. Now, you use a grade school trick to call me an arrogant pr*ck while claiming not to wish to do so, because that is beneath you.

Grow up, and come back several years from now (as i suspect it will take you many years to mature), and we can discuss the subject, based on reputable news sources, and verifiable sources. Leave your childish resentmens behind, they won't help the discussion.