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What/Who is the Holy Spirit?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2007 11:51 am
RR, Is that "receive" the same as all the experiences of all the religions past and present in the world? Or, is the christian one the only "true" receive?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 12:45 am
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 12:57 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
RR, Is that "receive" the same as all the experiences of all the religions past and present in the world? Or, is the christian one the only "true" receive?


The Christian experience in the mind is different to each seeker of God (that is why the true God is one of liberty) because prior to finding God most of us filled our mind with things that ran against the true God's way of life. Our worldly nature without the holy spirit got worse and worse. We burdened ourselves with extraneous behavior and blamed ourselves, condemned ourselves, and imprisoned ourselves in our own self imagined hell. God expects us to change those thoughts and liberate ourselves. Many would rather keep on beating themselves up because that is all that they know and that is the only God they may ever know. Condemnation is not the way to God, God does not respond to crying, suffering and pleading God responds to faith, confidence, trust and positive believing.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2007 01:35 am
The field of the holy spirit is as you can see a more involved concept than a ghost floating around.

Most conservatives are as much in the dark about God as democrats are in the dark about politics. Smile

It is troubling to think that most people just put on blindfolds and vote. They pick the name that rings the best or simply follow a certain party line. They rarely ever get to know the candidates and their various policies.

The same is with most conservatives and God, they are participants in the election but they do not really know God's talking points. They pick the names of notable theists and follow along party lines. They do not wrestle with the arguments and ratify apostolic innovation.

So it is no wonder the left wing is terrified of the radical fundamental Christian right. I must admit that standing where I do I myself do have my reservations that the the radical right might be feeding liberals to lions for Sunday entertainment if they could get away with it. Smile (Ann Coulter dressed in bible black leather chaps cracking a whip as the liberals and "m"aggots are fed (screaming Bush lied!) to the ferocious hungry beasts) <Sarcasm> What would Jesus do?

Yet the liberals are liberal alright, liberal to a fault. They are off the charts liberal. They are so afraid of God that they walk through life with blindfolds on. The liberals protect pedophiles with the witches of the ACLU and silence little children from saying a prayer to God in school. The liberals embody Scrooge, the Grinch and Dr. Christmas all in one. They are so afraid of something that is completely imagined in their own mind about God. Liberals become so terrified by God that they literally do themselves in out of pure shame, what shambles.

How the liberals and conservatives both lack in their knowledge of the true God's tender nature.

Thus, this perceived tyrant of a God is what is commonly yet erroneously accepted on both sides of the debate. Most accept that this is the monotheistic God of the Bible and Christians because that is what theists have taught them. A God that can only control people by scaring them and forcing them into submission by a myriad of laws. Ignorance of God is not God's fault. Would we rather God possess our free will and force us into submission? God will never possess your mind. God never possesses and there is liberty again.

Yet these people of the old testament had a dream of their God and though they were imperfect spiritually, yet they tried where none others even attempted. For this God as a liberal judge has found favor in them. Had God not shown this favor we would not have learned of the God of liberty.

As for God his nature and the nature of the holy spirit, the Bible calls God light but it also calls God love and it calls God spirit too.

So which one is God?

Well he is all and neither.

God uses these images to help us understand the invisible workings of his power. So to consider God as light helps us to understand the radiance of God's love and to call God spirit is to understand that a spirit is a created image within believers born of spiritual grace that God energizes.

God is Spirit and God gives of that which he is, spirit.

But is this spirit that God gives God? Yes and no, it is an image of God just as light is only an image of God and just as our conception of love is only a shadow of the actual glory of God's love toward us.
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