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Finally: Voting Machines That Leave a Paper Trail

 
 
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jespah
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 04:55 am
I wonder how the records are going to be stored and archived -- eventually that will be an issue, too. Hmm.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 05:40 am
I would expect them to be held the same way the old paper ballots were held. If they could manage it then, why not now?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 07:44 am
edgarblythe wrote:
I would expect them to be held the same way the old paper ballots were held. If they could manage it then, why not now?


Since we are on the issue of voting machines what happened to all the talk about voting fraud? We have heard nothing but accusations about voting fraud and how the Reps have been cheating for the last 3 elections. Now the Dems win and all the talk about fraud and cheating has all but disappeared. Did all the issues with voting fraud get fixed? No I don't think it did, I just think the Rep's were winning fair and square and the Dems didn't like it so they complained. Now they won and all is right with the world. It only took shaking the voting faith of the American public for cheap political gain.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 07:55 am
The words "barn doors"...and "already escaped" come to mind.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:01 am
Baldimo wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
I would expect them to be held the same way the old paper ballots were held. If they could manage it then, why not now?


Since we are on the issue of voting machines what happened to all the talk about voting fraud? We have heard nothing but accusations about voting fraud and how the Reps have been cheating for the last 3 elections. Now the Dems win and all the talk about fraud and cheating has all but disappeared. Did all the issues with voting fraud get fixed? No I don't think it did, I just think the Rep's were winning fair and square and the Dems didn't like it so they complained. Now they won and all is right with the world. It only took shaking the voting faith of the American public for cheap political gain.


Gosh Baldimo is that what you think? Gee, who could have predicted that/
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:03 am
Baldimo: Florida's move on this issue is precisely because the aroma of fraud was so prevalent in the recent elections. Reasonable people on both sides asked the question "How can you verify an election's result?" Paper trails are part of the answer.


The greatest democracy in the world ought to be able to run a fair election.

Joe(naif)Nation
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:11 am
Joe Nation wrote:
Baldimo: Florida's move on this issue is precisely because the aroma of fraud was so prevalent in the recent elections. Reasonable people on both sides asked the question "How can you verify an election's result?" Paper trails are part of the answer.


The greatest democracy in the world ought to be able to run a fair election.

Joe(naif)Nation


That doesn't explain the lack of complaints about voting fraud in this last election.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:12 am
well... you're whining and complaining right now.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:33 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
well... you're whining and complaining right now.


No. I'm asking questions. The liberals in this country for the last 6 years have done nothing but protray the voting system in this country as crap. The confidence of the voting public has been shaken for no other reason then to score political points. Now that they won all talk has halted.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:38 am
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
well... you're whining and complaining right now.


No. I'm asking questions. The liberals in this country for the last 6 years have done nothing but protray the voting system in this country as crap. The confidence of the voting public has been shaken for no other reason then to score political points. Now that they won all talk has halted.


Jesus get over it. You lost. there is nothing to be gained from all this grousing and complaining. You are emboldening the terrorists. Now more than ever we need to present a united front to the world. for God's sake Baldimo, get on America train.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 08:48 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
well... you're whining and complaining right now.


No. I'm asking questions. The liberals in this country for the last 6 years have done nothing but protray the voting system in this country as crap. The confidence of the voting public has been shaken for no other reason then to score political points. Now that they won all talk has halted.


Jesus get over it. You lost. there is nothing to be gained from all this grousing and complaining. You are emboldening the terrorists. Now more than ever we need to present a united front to the world. for God's sake Baldimo, get on America train.


Sometimes I love you, Bear!

Twisted Evil
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:33 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
well... you're whining and complaining right now.


No. I'm asking questions. The liberals in this country for the last 6 years have done nothing but protray the voting system in this country as crap. The confidence of the voting public has been shaken for no other reason then to score political points. Now that they won all talk has halted.


Jesus get over it. You lost. there is nothing to be gained from all this grousing and complaining. You are emboldening the terrorists. Now more than ever we need to present a united front to the world. for God's sake Baldimo, get on America train.


You should have used that reasoning about 6 years ago. United front my ass. It is the libs who have driven a wedge between people in the US over the last 6 years. Instead of accepting defeat with some sort of grace the Dem party and their supporters have claimed fraud and pushed doubt into the minds of voters. Now that you have won an election it is time to put all of that behind us and carry on? Wrong answer buddy and you know it. If you wanted a united front then you should have shut your mouth 6 years ago.

Your making humor out of the situation and poking fun doesn't make it better.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:35 am
tsk tsk Larry.... a little out of sorts aren't you? A real American would be too strong to allow a mealy mouthed liberal to get his goat.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:38 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
tsk tsk Larry.... a little out of sorts aren't you? A real American would be too strong to allow a mealy mouthed liberal to get his goat.


Sometimes your humor isn't so humorous. You sure you make a living doing stand up comedy?

By the way if you must know I'm not a cable guy, I work for a cable company doing internet and phone services repair.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:44 am
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
tsk tsk Larry.... a little out of sorts aren't you? A real American would be too strong to allow a mealy mouthed liberal to get his goat.


Sometimes your humor isn't so humorous. You sure you make a living doing stand up comedy?

actually, I'm a musician and a dj however I deal with people all the time who are so touchy thay can't take a joke at their expense. You can usually spot them in the club. they're the ones sitting alone. :wink:

By the way if you must know I'm not a cable guy, I work for a cable company doing internet and phone services repair.
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thank you for pointing out that tremendous difference.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:47 am
And where do you get the idea that there aren't any new charges of election fraud? In Ohio, in Arizona, in Florida there are still causes pending from the 2006 elections as to whether voting regulations were properly adhered to and CONGRESS just passed several new laws regarding the use of dirty tricks ie auto-calling, or making false statements regarding the time and place of elections.

This is not a dead subject of conversation in any district that I am aware of.

Oh. And two election officials were just convicted in Ohio. What do you know? AP Cleveland


Joe(reality bites)Nation
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:50 am
Hey Joe were these republicans or democrats?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:54 am
I don't care. That's the point of investigating bad officials without regard to their party. These people appear just to be lazy bean counter types who didn't want to spend any of their (haha) budget on re-counting votes.

Joe(it's the people's money. It's the people's votes)Nation
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 2 Feb, 2007 09:58 am
I don't either I think all crooks should be brought before the man, but I take a twisted pleasure in seeing the high and mighty toppled from the moral high ground. Twisted Evil

Bi-Polar (hard to believe but occasionally childish) Bear
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