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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 08:16 pm
@mac11,
I'm told that a few slices of ginger "steeped" in boiling water for a bit is an excellent start-to-the-day health drink, mac. Must try it.
Though your drink definitely sounds more exciting!
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 08:22 pm
@msolga,
I've presently addicted to a packaged Saag Paneer. I know better, it is a blast of salt.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 08:23 pm
@msolga,
Oh, btw ... I tried my one of my tried & true, dinner-in-a-rush standby recipes - lemongrass chicken - with a few (very young) mandarin leaves thrown in ... & I'm hereby reporting that it made absolutely zilch difference to the taste of the dish! Oh well .... Smile
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 01:53 am
A question about black pepper & white pepper: I recently came across a recipe (an Asian one - a congee) which called for white pepper at the end of cooking. Which I hardly ever use ... relying on freshly ground black pepper most of the time. When (if ever) do you use white pepper in your cooking? And why is it preferable to black in those particular recipes?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 11:08 am
@msolga,
I have the same question, except that I never use white pepper at all. I've figured that is just a color choice having to do with "white" dishes, but of course I may be completely wrong.

Maybe it's milder/more subtle?
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 11:14 am
@msolga,
no expert, but I asked a chef I had much respect for this question once, and he said it was so kids would eat it in mashed potatoes, mostly...

it just gives you food with taste and no black spots is my take.
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JPB
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 11:34 am
@msolga,
I saw an explanation of the different "heats" generated by black, white, and red pepper. I think white pepper is supposed to have a back bite (heat after swallowing), rather than be peppery to the tongue. I'll see if I can find it...
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JPB
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 11:36 am
@msolga,
White pepper comes from ground white peppercorns. Here's one type...

Muntok White Peppercorns

Rich and sophisticated. The "insides" of the Lampong Black Peppercorns, slightly earthy with superior flavor. This pepper is suggested for use in dishes since it "blooms" when heated or cooked.
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JPB
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 12:34 pm
@msolga,
This isn't quite what I was looking for but it provides a good explanation. I have a recipe that calls for both black and white pepper because they have different heats and react at different points in the taste (front bite vs back bite).

http://www.culinarycafe.com/Spices_Herbs/Pepper.html

Quote:
General Description
Pepper is the dried berry of Piper nigrum. This vine which can grow up to ten feet tall is indigenous to India and Asia. Pepper is actually berries that are picked about nine months after flowering. (This is true pepper, and should not be confused with paprika, cayenne pepper, chili pepper, red pepper, and bell pepper, which are fruits from the capiscum family.) Black Pepper, the spiciest, is berries that are picked unripe. The berries used for White Pepper are ripened on the vine and soaked so that their outer hulls are easily removed. Green Peppercorns are immature berries which are freezedried or packed in brine for preservation.


Taste and Aroma
Black Pepper has a sharp, pungent aroma and flavor. White Pepper is hotter, less subtle and mildly fermented. Green Peppercorn is milder in flavor and has a fresh taste.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 12:40 pm
JPB, interesting, and the opposite of what I was guessing about mildness or subtlety. Off to see what Penzey's has of white peppers.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 12:47 pm
a link - http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeyspeppercorns.html?id=SImp6A77
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 05:44 pm
@JPB,
Thank you for that JPB! I must admit my thinking was more along the line of osso's.

I actually went out & bought some white pepper & it does, in fact taste very different. I can see, in some recipes, it might well be preferable to black.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 01:52 am
No one asked about this, but I feel I really must share!
I'm rather amazed.
This is a method of cooking chicken I'd heard about (most recently from Kylie Kwong, contemporary Oz/Asian cooking guru).
Then I found this (similar) recipe in a Vietnamese cookbook.
I decided to try it. :

Poached chicken:
1 fresh whole free range (preferably) chicken trimmed of excess fat.
5 sprigs of coriander
4 lires of water.
(Plus a Vietnamese dipping sources for later (when you're actually eating), which I'll tell you about, if you want to know more . Pretty easy, really.)

All that you have to do is to bring 4 litres of water (with the coriander) to a rolling boil in a large pot.
Place the chicken in the pot.
Bring the liquid back to the boil & boil for 10 minutes.
Then turn off the heat. Put the lid on the pot & allow to steep, undisturbed, for about an hour, until the chicken is cooked through.

I was a bit dubious, but I'm now reporting that it actually worked! Surprised

Lovely tenderly cooked chicken!

I'm amazed, really. So easy. ...

jespah
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 04:29 am
@msolga,
I'd be a little concerned about food safety with that method. I don't want this to sound like an accusation, but did you check the internal temperature? It should be 165 degrees F according to here: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Is_It_Done_Yet/Brochure_Text/index.asp
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 06:47 am
@jespah,
Gosh. No, I didn't.

It didn't occur to me. I guess I could gently re-heat the remaining meat, which I plan to use in a broth/soup tomorrow, with other goodies included. (& perhaps purchase one of those thermometer thingies for future use)

Anyway, it was pretty good, with a Sweet Soy Sauce & chillies & ginger dip.

This is a traditional Chinese/Asian way of preparing chicken. Just looked & I've found quite a few other recipes using the same method. Here's another one:

http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/kgk/0998/succulent.html
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 06:56 am
@msolga,
Remember Jes is a Jew and all they like to do is thoroughly remove all flavor and nutrients from chicken by boiling the **** out of it for weeks.Then they spread the yellow glop on bread
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 07:02 am
@farmerman,
Well I don't know about that, farmer ....

But I figure I haven't heard of heaps of Chinese deaths caused by cooking this way. Anyway, I like to live dangerously! Smile
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 07:46 am
@farmerman,
Huh? I hate overcooked food. But I hate food poisoning a lot more.
oolongteasup
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 07:51 am
@jespah,
cooking is like chat

heat transference
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 10:18 am
@msolga,
Isn't Kylie Kwong marvellous! her recipes are wonderful.

Poached chicken is a great way to go. I really enjoy the results.

(I'd probably boil for 15 - 20 minutes, before turning the heat off, but I'm Nervous Nellie who doesn't do meat thermometers)
 

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