Why does the god of the Bible consider slavery to be moral??

Talkactive wrote:

Here is what Wikipedia inform about slavery in the Scriptures, which was strictly regulated and merely a form of social ordinance/welfare, totally different from kidnapping of people for slavery and the cruel and evil way slaves have been treated, e.g. the Jews in former Egypt and black people in America.

Oh really, just a form of social welfare? I'll ask you the same question I asked neo's other buddy here. Is your deception intentional or out of ignorance? For someone that quotes scripture as much as you two do I can only assume intentional.

Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.

Please explain to me what you see that is different in that description from what was practiced in the early days of the US.

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Actually, slavery was practiced in many parts of the world - not only the US.

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Not only was but still is.

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neologist wrote:

Well, the bible is essentially the account of two gods. So, when you talk about the god of the bible, you have to define the individual. The god of this world is not currently the God who created the world.

And you believe the Bible?

What happened to the other God?

How did the two Gods get along with one another?

Were they related; did they have the same parents?

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xingu wrote:

neologist wrote:
Well, the bible is essentially the account of two gods. So, when you talk about the god of the bible, you have to define the individual. The god of this world is not currently the God who created the world.

And you believe the Bible?

And you have read the bible?

When Jesus referred to the 'prince of this world in John 14:30, he was talking about the one who, in Luke 4: 8, was able to offer him the world. That is the same individual who claimed to Adam and Eve that they would be better off setting their own standards for good and bad. (Genesis 3:5)

xingu wrote:

What happened to the other God?

His power has never been in question. He has allowed Satan time to prove his allegation.

xingu wrote:

How did the two Gods get along with one another?

Real well until about 6000 years ago.

xingu wrote:

Were they related; did they have the same parents?

They are related, yes. But the parent has disowned the son.

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neologist wrote:

That is the same individual who claimed to Adam and Eve that they would be better off setting their own standards for good and bad. (Genesis 3:5)

That would be the one that told the truth with these words, correct?

[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
[5] For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Surely that must be so as it is confirmed here.

[22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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In essence they had sex to reproduce their own kind, and that was the revelation for good and evil. It had nothing to do with eating an apple. That would be silly and stupid. For all we care, it could have been a fig.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

In essence they had sex to reproduce their own kind, and that was the revelation for good and evil. It had nothing to do with eating an apple. That would be silly and stupid. For all we care, it could have been a fig.

They were told to reproduce before they ate.

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mesquite wrote:

neologist wrote:
That is the same individual who claimed to Adam and Eve that they would be better off setting their own standards for good and bad. (Genesis 3:5)

That would be the one that told the truth with these words, correct?

[4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
[5] For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Surely that must be so as it is confirmed here.

[22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

And see how well it has all worked out.

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It worked out the only way it could have worked out when a jealous, quick to anger, slow to forgive, vindictive, vengeful, retributive, tyrannical, petty, murderous, barbaric god sets a trap. The Hebrews didn't create a wuss. They needed a bad ass.

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mesquite wrote:

It worked out the only way it could have worked out when a jealous, quick to anger, slow to forgive, vindictive, vengeful, retributive, tyrannical, petty, murderous, barbaric god sets a trap. The Hebrews didn't create a wuss. They needed a bad ass.

Mind if I ask a favor?

You seem to have a fertile understanding of Amerindian art. Do you know anything about the Mayan culture?

http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2737443#2737443

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Setanta has already given you much more than I could. Nice dodge though. :wink:

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God doesn't forgive; he destroys anything and everybody when his anger takes hold of his puny brain.

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Why is it that he asks humans to stone people to death when he can do the dastardly deed so well by himself?

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mesquite wrote:

It worked out the only way it could have worked out when a jealous, quick to anger, slow to forgive, vindictive, vengeful, retributive, tyrannical, petty, murderous, barbaric god sets a trap. The Hebrews didn't create a wuss. They needed a bad ass.

Adequate description of the god of this world as described in 2 Corinthians 4:4 and other places.

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neologist wrote:

xingu wrote:

neologist wrote:
Well, the bible is essentially the account of two gods. So, when you talk about the god of the bible, you have to define the individual. The god of this world is not currently the God who created the world.

And you believe the Bible?
And you have read the bible?

When Jesus referred to the 'prince of this world in John 14:30, he was talking about the one who, in Luke 4: 8, was able to offer him the world. That is the same individual who claimed to Adam and Eve that they would be better off setting their own standards for good and bad. (Genesis 3:5)
xingu wrote:
What happened to the other God?
His power has never been in question. He has allowed Satan time to prove his allegation.
xingu wrote:
How did the two Gods get along with one another?
Real well until about 6000 years ago.
xingu wrote:
Were they related; did they have the same parents?
They are related, yes. But the parent has disowned the son.

So you're a Gnostic?

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I haven't been able to figure out what he is but he seems to have a big belief in the devil. Devils are handy to have around to explain the bad things you don't understand.

Why were some 40 to 60 people killed in an avalanche that buried a bus in Mexico?

Easy answer; the Devil did it. If the avalanche happened just a bit sooner or later it would have missed the bus. But it was timed perfectly to bury it so it had to be planned.

The Devil did it, no doubt about it.

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070704/070704_mexlandslide1_hmed_6p.h2.jpg

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19604644/

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of my ******* god i love your signature!!!!!!!!

"and i asked him to forgive me" ROFLMFAO!

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OGIONIK wrote:

of my **** god i love your signature!!!!!!!!

"and i asked him to forgive me" ROFLMFAO!

It's appropriate for a Christian. Only way to heaven is to believe. So steal all the bikes you want; God forgives the believers.

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Actually, the devil is responsible for everything, if you believe in that sort of thing. The devil made up the part about there being a loving god because, well, because everybody loves a soap opera.

See here:

Steve 41oo wrote:

neologist wrote:
xingu wrote:

neologist wrote:
Well, the bible is essentially the account of two gods. So, when you talk about the god of the bible, you have to define the individual. The god of this world is not currently the God who created the world.

And you believe the Bible?
And you have read the bible?

When Jesus referred to the 'prince of this world in John 14:30, he was talking about the one who, in Luke 4: 8, was able to offer him the world. That is the same individual who claimed to Adam and Eve that they would be better off setting their own standards for good and bad. (Genesis 3:5)
xingu wrote:
What happened to the other God?
His power has never been in question. He has allowed Satan time to prove his allegation.
xingu wrote:
How did the two Gods get along with one another?
Real well until about 6000 years ago.
xingu wrote:
Were they related; did they have the same parents?
They are related, yes. But the parent has disowned the son.

So you're a Gnostic?

The genius part about the loving god is that he never shows up. Believers pray to him and build huge cathedrals and sing hymns and rotate rosary beads at light speed but the loving god alway turns out to be as unfeeling as Nature. (Surprise. Surprise.)

Joe(makes a great comic book too)Nation

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