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Bush isn't the only one suffering delusions

 
 
Wilso
 
Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 06:47 am
Apparently Hillary Clinton is claiming that she's going to fix the shrub's Iraq mess. What is the source of this delusion that America's politicians seem to have? The US can't fix Iraq. Neither the right nor the left seems to realise it.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 07:08 am
Apparently, Chlinton is trying to curry favor with her liberal friends. Remember, she will say and do anything to be elected (except explain her past transgressions and answer for her voting record).
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 07:16 am
She will and has already demonstrated this tactic.

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.

Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.

Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school )

Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.

He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 23 Jan, 2007 08:08 pm
woiyo,
did you even read the story you linked? It said the whole thing about the madrassa coming from Clinton's camp was part of the"right wing hit job". The tactics being discussed are the slimy tactics of the right, trying to turn two dems against each other.

Do you just see what agrees with your opinion?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 07:16 am
snood wrote:
woiyo,
did you even read the story you linked? It said the whole thing about the madrassa coming from Clinton's camp was part of the"right wing hit job". The tactics being discussed are the slimy tactics of the right, trying to turn two dems against each other.

Do you just see what agrees with your opinion?


Sure they are. Just like the right wing conspiracy she blamed for her husbands transgressions.

Of course SHE would NEVER EVER mislead the public.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 07:18 am
thank god bush has delivered on all his rhetoric Laughing
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 08:13 am
snood wrote:
woiyo,
did you even read the story you linked? It said the whole thing about the madrassa coming from Clinton's camp was part of the"right wing hit job". The tactics being discussed are the slimy tactics of the right, trying to turn two dems against each other.

Do you just see what agrees with your opinion?


Heres the rub. The "right wing" won't have to do anything because the Dems will do all the work for them. Unlike the 2004 election this election doesn't have an incumbent president to go against. What the Dems did in 2004 was go after Bush and it was a race to see who was going to go after him the hardest. They didn't attack each other very much, just Bush. Now they don't have that, now they will attack each other. With H. Clinton in the race we know it is going to be low down and dirty. I don't think there is a level she could stoop to to win. This is going to be quite the entertaining election cycle.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 08:24 am
It could well be entertaining. The Republicans will be trying so hard to distance themselves from Bush they will be outdemocrating the Democrats.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 08:35 am
parados wrote:
It could well be entertaining. The Republicans will be trying so hard to distance themselves from Bush they will be outdemocrating the Democrats.


I think your right. It should be a very fun and unnerving election cycle.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 08:38 am
Hillary will win the Dem nomination after a strong result from Obama....Bill's help and money will win out for Hill.

She will not be elected president, too well known, too phoney and too polarizing.

Still early but that's how I see it unfolding at this point.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 24 Jan, 2007 11:47 am
woiyo wrote:
She will and has already demonstrated this tactic.

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Allegations that Sen. Barack Obama was educated in a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" are not accurate, according to CNN reporting.

Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam.

Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school )

Insight attributed the information in its article to an unnamed source, who said it was discovered by "researchers connected to Senator Clinton." A spokesman for Clinton, who is also weighing a White House bid, denied that the campaign was the source of the Obama claim.

He called the story "an obvious right-wing hit job."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html

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But reporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.

He visited the Basuki school, which Obama attended from 1969 to 1971.

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.

"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."


The school was not one that taught hate and violence and was not a "madrassas" so it was a hit job or just poor research on the facts.

"You decide." Rolling Eyes
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