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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 05:06 pm
Are both these phrases used?

How are they different? or are they the same?

Are both of them correct?
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 05:23 pm
Hey, Pantalones. You most assuredly are a serious student of English.

Two examples:

In order to give you the best results, I need more information.

I don't like the phrase "In order that......" because it, too, is awkward.

I guess this would work:

In order that we may serve you better, please be patient and take a seat.

Strange that I just played another Spanish type song on the radio thread.
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 05:32 pm
IN BRITISH ENGLISH

I looked at the map in order to find my distance from home.

meaning... to enable (me) to


It is in order for parents to accompany children on the school visit.

meaning.... allowed that or okay for

AMERICAN ENGLISH MAY DIFFER
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fresco
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 05:42 pm
(Hi Letty ! Alles in Ordnung ? Smile )
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 05:49 pm
Fresco, my word, I have missed you, Brit. You still doing Skinner? Razz

Incidentally, I didn't realize that the phrase was "In order for....", Pantalones.
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Roberta
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 06:23 pm
"In order to" takes a verb (infinitive). In order to do something . . .

"In order for" takes a noun. In order for something to be done . . .
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Pantalones
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 06:46 pm
Thanks Letty, fresco and Roberta, that answered my question.

Letty wrote:
Hey, Pantalones. You most assuredly are a serious student of English.


I'm a serious student because I'd like to be able to teach English and/or Spanish someday in order to live in a foreign country for some time.

But these particular doubts come because I now use English in my job (being a programmer and sometimes needing to answer tech-support questions). I have these phrases in my mind which I sometimes use but I'm just not sure if I'm using them correctly, happens to me with Spanish sometimes too.
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