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CHIRAC, SARKOZY The French Right prepares for presidentials

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 03:08 pm
@msolga,
A2k updates are what I'm after, I mean
Francis
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 03:11 pm
@msolga,
Relax, msolga, this thread is not about misspellings..

We are not that mean, I mean...
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 03:13 pm
@Francis,
I just woke up, Francis & am in the process of kick starting my brain. Things will get better later on. I hope. Smile
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 03:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Sarkozy suffered fresh poll woes at the weekend, with his popularity hitting new lows and his political allies forecast to suffer heavy defeat at this month's local elections.

A CSA opinion poll in Le Parisien showed Sarkozy's approval rating down 4 points in a month at 36 percent -- the lowest level since he won power in 2007.

A separate CSA poll predicted leftwing groups would win a combined 52 percent of the vote at the local elections against a meagre 28 percent for centre-right and rightist parties.


I'd be interested to know more about what the main election issues are, if anyone in the know has the time to fill us in on the details.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 03:48 pm
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

I'd be interested to know more about what the main election issues are, if anyone in the know has the time to fill us in on the details.




Well, it's a regional election = the 26 regional councils in France are responsible for things like school maintenance and local transportation.

This time, since the vote's being seen as a test on Sarkozy and the governing conservatives, it's a bit more interesting ...

Regions of France
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 04:00 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
This time, since the vote's being seen as a test on Sarkozy and the governing conservatives, it's a bit more interesting ...


Ah, I see.

Thanks for that information, Walter.

You wonder though, how accurate an indication voting patterns in regional council elections actually are, in terms of approval or disapproval of the French government. But if this is how the French themselves view the situation ...?
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 04:02 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
These were minor regional elections as I understand it, Walter. There is another round coming next week. Minor, but ominous perhaps for Mr Sarkozy and the UMP.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 14 Mar, 2010 04:11 pm
The trend in Germany - and in France, as I understand it - is to "punish" the government [in Germany state as well as federal] in the following local, regional elections - that wasn't part of the original game plan, I think.
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Francis
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 02:31 am
msolga wrote:
But if this is how the French themselves view the situation ...?

It is, indeed, msolga.

Walter has a good grasp on French politics as our systems are quite similar..

(Walter, don't argue about Länder and régions!)
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 11:53 am
Kudos to the French pollsters, they did an impressive job estimating voter preferences. 'Bout a week ago, I posted a chart illustrating party preferences according to the average of the three latest polls at the time. The results of the regional elections track those numbers pretty closely - within a single percentage point for almost all the parties, actually. The single exception is that a couple percentage points' worth of National Front voters seem to have pretended to the pollsters that they were going to vote for Sarkozy's UMP.

The website of the French Ministry of Interior only identifies the results by political current - something of a necessity because individual parties contested the elections in alliances that varied somewhat from region to region; but Wikipedia specifies the parties involved in each current with a little more detail.

Code: 3,4% Far left parties (mainly the post/Trotskyite Workers Struggle and New Anti-Capitalist parties) *
5,8% The Left Front and allies (Communist Party, Left Party, minor allies)
29,1% Socialist Party and allies (23,5% for Socialist Party lists + 5,6% for united leftwing lists)
12,2% Europe Ecology
3,1% Various other leftwing lists

53,6% TOTAL LEFT

4,2% MoDem (Democratic Movement) and allies
1,9% Various other lists
0,8% Regionalist lists

6,9% TOTAL CENTRE

1,2% Various other rightwing lists
26,0% Presidential Majority
11,4% National Front
0,9% Various other far right lists

39,5% TOTAL RIGHT


Turnout was at an unprecedented low: just 46% of eligible voters came to the ballot box, down sharply from 62% in 2004.

There's a good map and overview of the results by region on the site of the Liberation newspaper.

* News items last night - going on exit polls I suppose? - broke down the numbers for the far left as 2.5% for the Anti-Capitalist Party and 1.3% for Workers' Struggle. Doesn't quite add up to the pooled 3.4% of the official results, but those should roughly be the proportions then.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 01:07 pm
@nimh,
Two -IMHO - interesting results:

http://i41.tinypic.com/seomyh.jpg
a big win for the 'Green-Left' list in the Ile-de-France region

and Le Pen scored in his homeland (actually his list did 'good' in Alsace and Centre, too)
http://i43.tinypic.com/nx6ip0.jpg

(Graphics from the Le Parisien website)
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 15 Mar, 2010 01:38 pm
No time to comment, but here's a report on the French election results, from Oz (via the NYT):

http://www.theage.com.au/world/sarkozy-hit-hard-in-french-polls-20100315-q9jp.html?autostart=1
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 01:39 pm
According to exit polls, the left parties got 54,3% vs 36,1% for the right wing parties.

(Alsace seems to remain the only region with a right majority.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 02:26 pm
(Estimated) Results as of now (21:15h)

http://i40.tinypic.com/2woiuqc.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 03:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
La Réunion keeps a right wing regional parliament, too.

(Some media call today's results: "Petit Chelem pour la gauche" - Petit slam for the left)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 03:12 pm
Not really surprising results (most regions already have got the final official results) - but I always like those from the Bretagne

http://i44.tinypic.com/wbar6o.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 21 Mar, 2010 03:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The FN got quite a few votes in the more eastern and Northern regions - the most got Le Pen's daughter in Nord-Pas-de-Calais ...

http://i44.tinypic.com/2lnfud2.jpg


... and Le Pen himself

http://i42.tinypic.com/2hphsar.jpg

(Which is admittingly in a different point of the compass as noted above Wink )
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 01:51 am
The final results:
http://i43.tinypic.com/308ksa0.jpg

Source and additional infos @ Le Parisien
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