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Fri 29 Dec, 2006 10:50 am
CNN reports that Reuters that Saddam Hussein has been turned over to Iraqi authorites. The speculation had been that once this occurred, he would be swiftly executed.
or quickly broken out....
Yep, it was reported on last night's CBS Evening news that a deal has been struck to execute him before the end of the year and that documentation and perhaps video would be provided to assure the Iraqi people that he was indeed dead.
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:or quickly broken out....
Well, that
would solve a lot of problems, wouldn't it?
If Saddam's execution will result in an intensification of violence by the Sunnis, followed by an intensification of retribution by the Shiites, as I think it probably will and I am sure the Bush Administration also thinks it will, a jailbreak would certainly work to our advantage. After all, if we are to get out Iraq anytime in the next decade or so, we have to bring the Sunni and Shiites together to some extent.
"Huh? Where'd he go?" might be the best solution for all concerned, at this point.
Don't kill Saddam, Vatican urges
From correspondents in Rome and Amman
December 28, 2006 11:09pm
Article from: Agence France-
EXECUTING former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein would be "avenging a crime with another crime", the head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department said.
"We don't think a crime should be avenged by another crime,'' Cardinal Renato Raffaele Martino told the Italian daily La Repubblica in an interview published today.
"The Church proclaims that human life should be protected from conception to natural death,'' said Cardinal Martino, a former papal envoy to the United Nations whose department deals with human rights issues.
"The death penalty is not a natural death. And no one can kill, not even the state,'' he said.
"There are still 30 days left. (The execution order) needs the signature of the President (Jalal Talabani). Things could still happen,'' he said.
Mr Talabani has a personal moral objection to the use of the death penalty, but has in the past signalled that he will step aside and allow his vice presidents to rubber stamp the verdict.
Saddam and two officials of his regime were convicted of crimes against humanity on November 5, after a court was told they ordered the deaths of 148 Shi'ite men from the village of Dujail in an act of collective punishment.
On Tuesday, a panel of appeal court judges confirmed the sentences in a binding and final judgement.
Authorities now have 30 days within which to carry out the execution orders.
Saddam lawyer appealed today to the international commmunity to prevent him being handed over by US forces to the Iraqi authorities for execution.
"I ask all international organisations, the United Nations, the Arab League and world leaders, to intervene urgently with the American administration to prevent Saddam being handed to the Iraqi authorities,'' Saddam's lead lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi said.
"Saddam is a prisoner of war and according to international law he should not be handed to his enemies,'' he said.
Saddam is being held in a special detention centre run by the US military at a larger base on the outskirts of Baghdad. Although the jail is protected by US troops, Saddam is under the legal authority of the Iraqi court.
The speculation is that Saddam's execution won't matter that much on the ground as it is already as bad as it can get.
Roxxxanne wrote:The speculation is that Saddam's execution won't matter that much on the ground as it is already as bad as it can get.
I can't believe you would underestimate bushs' ability to f*ck things up so badly.
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:Roxxxanne wrote:The speculation is that Saddam's execution won't matter that much on the ground as it is already as bad as it can get.
I can't believe you would underestimate bushs' ability to f*ck things up so badly.
It is already FUBARed. BTW does anyone believe that Saddam is really under Iraqi control?
Saddam is still in US custody.
Roxxxanne wrote:LoneStarMadam wrote:Saddam is still in US custody.
Nonsense
BS, you're behind, as usual. He has not yet been turned over, even though most stations were reporting that, they're now reporting that he is still in US custody.
Saddam may already be dead. The State department is refusing to confirm the turnover FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. Turn off Rush and Fox News if you want the truth.
In reality, Saddam will be under US control until and probably after he is confirmed dead.
Ed Henry of CNN is reporting that Saddam will be executed within the next two hours. And that he is under "Iraqi control" and has been.
From the time of his capture, Saddam has been physically in US custody. However, once an indigenous Iraqi government had been reconstituted, legal control of Saddam was vested in the constititutional Iraqi government, which government then specifically requested and authorized that Saddam's physical custody be under US auspice. At present, news accounts to the contrary notwithstanding, it appears physical custody of Saddam remains in US control. As presently it is the middle of night by local Iraqi time, such would be not particularly surprising, if anything, it might be but to be expected. The US is treaty-bound to honor lawful requests from the Iraqi government, so it is reasonable to assume physical control of Saddam will be handed at or shortly following the local start of the business day. I fully expect that in effect, it will amount to administrational detail; what I anticipate is that on handover, should it occur (and there is little reason to expect it might not), at the discretion and to the schedule of the Iraqi government, Saddam most probably will be walked, under extremely heavy guard and in strongest practical security, a short distance from his cell to the waiting gallows.
We shall see ... prolly within a few hours if not sooner.
Addendum - I expect also that announcement of Saddam's execution will come only after the act is an accomplished fact.
Fox News reporting that now saddam hab been turned over to the Iraqi authorities within the last few minutes.
LoneStarMadam wrote:Fox News reporting that now saddam hab been turned over to the Iraqi authorities within the last few minutes.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Wire reports now are that the Iraqi government has officially announced physical custody of Saddam has been handed over to Iraqi authority, CNN, FOX, and MSNBC all confirming.