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What is difference between long vowels and short ones?

 
 
muoyuer
 
Reply Sun 24 Dec, 2006 08:30 pm
What is the use of long vowel or short vowel in poems? Does the long one mean tranquil and short one the opposite?
How to appreciate the following lines?

I look for what I miss;
I know not what it is.
I feel so sad, so drear,
So lonely without cheer.
How hard is it
To keep me fit
In this lingering cold!
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 25 Dec, 2006 07:26 am
Long or short vowels are chosen to fit the metre. The length of vowel has nothing to do with tranquility or its opposite. There is no general rule. Each poem has its own structure.
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muoyuer
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 08:07 pm
How to translate sound immitaion in poems?
The lines I pasted on are translated from a Chinese poem which is very sad describing the poet herself in the early spring wind and rain and in the original lines the poet uses 14 characters of 7 pairs to reveal her feeling and she chose 7 pairs to express what she was faced with would be trouble and after trouble. Could you find the same in English version?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 08:07 pm
about 8 to 12 inches....
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2006 08:12 pm
oh vowels with a v... sorry. never mind
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 06:01 am
Re: How to translate sound immitaion in poems?
muoyuer wrote:
The lines I pasted on are translated from a Chinese poem which is very sad describing the poet herself in the early spring wind and rain and in the original lines the poet uses 14 characters of 7 pairs to reveal her feeling and she chose 7 pairs to express what she was faced with would be trouble and after trouble. Could you find the same in English version?


You did not say that you were talking about Chinese poetry.

The units of poetic metre, like rhyme, vary from language to language and between poetic traditions. They can involve arrangements of syllables into repeated patterns called feet within a line. English meter is traditionally conceived as being founded on the patterns of stressed and unstressed syllables.

In Greek and Latin poetry, the metrical "feet" were based on the length of time taken to pronounce each syllable, which were categorized as either "long" syllables or "short" syllables (also known as "heavy" and "light" syllables, respectively, to distinguish from long and short vowels). The foot is often compared to a musical measure and the long and short syllables to whole notes and half notes. In English poetry, feet are determined by emphasis rather than length, with stressed and unstressed syllables serving the same function as long and short syllables in classical meter.

English is an accentual language, and therefore beats and offbeats (stressed and unstressed syllables) take the place of the long and short syllables of classical systems. In most English verse, the meter can be considered as a sort of back beat, against which natural speech rhythms vary expressively.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2007 11:33 am
Contrex--

Thank you. I learned something.
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