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Abundant energy supplies off-limits

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 09:51 am
Abundant energy supplies off-limits
By Ben Lieberman
December 18, 2006



Good news: The more we look for oil and natural gas in the United States, the more we find. That might even be great news -- if so much of the energy wasn't out of reach. According to a new Interior Department report, there are substantial onshore energy deposits on federal lands. A companion study of offshore energy reserves released earlier this year reached the same conclusion.
But both reports found much of this energy is either explicitly off-limits or hampered by regulatory constraints that effectively make it so. At least part of the solution to high oil and natural gas prices lies right under our feet, but Congress has failed to change the laws and regulations that keep this domestic energy locked up.
Federal lands are critical because most of America's onshore energy is in the West and Alaska, where more than half the land is under federal control.
How much energy are we talking about? The federal lands studied are "estimated to contain 187 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 21 billion barrels of oil, which represents 76 percent of onshore federal oil and gas resources," the Interior Department found. That 187 trillion cubic feet of natural gas could supply all of America's households for 39 years, and 21 billion barrels of oil represents more than 30 years' worth of current Saudi imports.
At the very least, bringing this energy online would have taken the edge off the price spikes consumers suffered in recent years and keep a lid on runaway prices for decades.
But, Interior says, we can access just 3 percent of onshore federal oil and 13 percent of onshore federal gas under standard lease terms. In other words, only this tiny percentage of energy can be accessed without serious legal or regulatory impediments. In addition, "46 percent of onshore federal oil and 60 percent of onshore federal gas may be developed subject to additional restrictions, including no surface occupancy."
Most disturbing of all, "51 percent of the oil and 27 percent of the gas are [currently] closed to leasing." This energy is completely off-limits.
Granted, few Americans want unrestricted oil and natural gas wells in our treasured National Parks or other areas of scenic, environmental or historical significance. But current restrictions surpass such reasonable limits. Besides, advances in drilling technology have dramatically reduced both the above-ground environmental footprint and the risk of spills.



http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20061217-103056-1149r.htm


Why not tap the sources of energy in and around the US?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 11:54 am
We have been trying to drill in ANWR for years but the greenies won't let the US do it. These are the same people who complain about the war in Iraq being for oil but they lobby hard against the drilling at home.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 12:14 pm
Baldimo wrote:
These are the same people who complain about the war in Iraq being for oil but they lobby hard against the drilling at home.

Where's the contradiction here?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 12:16 pm
all roads lead to you're either with us or for the terrorists, Joe.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 12:20 pm
I agree - these positions are not contradictory, but complimentary.

Cycloptichorn
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 12:40 pm
Re: Abundant energy supplies off-limits
Lieberman wrote:
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At the very least, bringing this energy online would have taken the edge off the price spikes consumers suffered in recent years and keep a lid on runaway prices for decades.


Greenie weighing in... I'm all for price spikes. The higher the price, the fewer Hummers, etc., I see in my neighborhood.

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But, Interior says, we can access just 3 percent of onshore federal oil and 13 percent of onshore federal gas under standard lease terms. In other words, only this tiny percentage of energy can be accessed without serious legal or regulatory impediments. In addition, "46 percent of onshore federal oil and 60 percent of onshore federal gas may be developed subject to additional restrictions, including no surface occupancy."
Most disturbing of all, "51 percent of the oil and 27 percent of the gas are [currently] closed to leasing." This energy is completely off-limits.


I don't find that disturbing in the least.

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Granted, few Americans want unrestricted oil and natural gas wells in our treasured National Parks or other areas of scenic, environmental or historical significance. But current restrictions surpass such reasonable limits. Besides, advances in drilling technology have dramatically reduced both the above-ground environmental footprint and the risk of spills.


Funny, the advances in drilling technology don't quite convince me that the risk is worth it. I think the day will come when greed wins out and drilling in lands that are currently off-limits will commence. For now, it's easier to topple a government here and there to ensure our divine rights to oil. Someone's going to buy it, it might as well be us, right?
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 12:51 pm
Marking this spot. This brings up vague memories of royalties not paid and something else I can't quite remember the details on.

Let me hunt some info down to post. I'll be right back.
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squinney
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 01:03 pm
Shoot, they've archived it. Here's a link to NYT articleNYT Article in case you have subscription.

And This One on Selling federal land to (um-hum) comapanies and individuals.

Oh, Here's a current article of interest.

Is it possible we could make better use of the federal land by harnessing wind, water and solar energy?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 01:34 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
These are the same people who complain about the war in Iraq being for oil but they lobby hard against the drilling at home.

Where's the contradiction here?


Well if they were so conserned about the war being for Oil then you think they would be for the US drilling more at home to get off of forgein oil dependence.

They don't want war for oil and they don't want drilling at home. So where do we get the oil from? I know they push hard for alternate sources of energy but until that happens we have to have the oil from some place.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 01:35 pm
Baldimo wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
These are the same people who complain about the war in Iraq being for oil but they lobby hard against the drilling at home.

Where's the contradiction here?


Well if they were so conserned about the war being for Oil then you think they would be for the US drilling more at home to get off of forgein oil dependence.

They don't want war for oil and they don't want drilling at home. So where do we get the oil from? I know they push hard for alternate sources of energy but until that happens we have to have the oil from some place.


We do?

Perhaps we can spend actual monies trying to find alternative sources - say, 3 billion a month, or half of what we spend in Iraq.

Cycloptichorn
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 01:43 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
These are the same people who complain about the war in Iraq being for oil but they lobby hard against the drilling at home.

Where's the contradiction here?


Well if they were so conserned about the war being for Oil then you think they would be for the US drilling more at home to get off of forgein oil dependence.

They don't want war for oil and they don't want drilling at home. So where do we get the oil from? I know they push hard for alternate sources of energy but until that happens we have to have the oil from some place.


We do?

Perhaps we can spend actual monies trying to find alternative sources - say, 3 billion a month, or half of what we spend in Iraq.

Cycloptichorn


That would be a great idea now wouldn't it. You explain to the troops that they won't have ammo or supplies for their trucks, Helicopters or tanks. When funding is cut lets see how happy you make those that you support. Or better yet the food when it starts going to nothing but MRE's because funding was cut.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 01:46 pm
Baldimo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
These are the same people who complain about the war in Iraq being for oil but they lobby hard against the drilling at home.

Where's the contradiction here?


Well if they were so conserned about the war being for Oil then you think they would be for the US drilling more at home to get off of forgein oil dependence.

They don't want war for oil and they don't want drilling at home. So where do we get the oil from? I know they push hard for alternate sources of energy but until that happens we have to have the oil from some place.


We do?

Perhaps we can spend actual monies trying to find alternative sources - say, 3 billion a month, or half of what we spend in Iraq.

Cycloptichorn


That would be a great idea now wouldn't it. You explain to the troops that they won't have ammo or supplies for their trucks, Helicopters or tanks. When funding is cut lets see how happy you make those that you support. Or better yet the food when it starts going to nothing but MRE's because funding was cut.


Well, you see, if the point of the war was to secure Oil supplies in the first place, maybe we should have spent the money on research instead of a damn pointless war which isn't securing jack.

Us 'greenies' don't give a damn about the failure to open more oil fields here in America. Why should we? It just means more pollution and more pretending that burning oil everyday to get around doesn't matter to the environment and our health. Screw that.

If the US government was serious about getting off of foreign oil, we would have done so long ago; but they have no intention of doing so, because there are many rich folks here in America who profit greatly off of our oil addiction, and they have no desire to see us stop; so we don't.

Cycloptichorn
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 01:49 pm
Alternative energy sources have been around for a hundred years. Ethanol, solar, methane etc. Before we go digging up Federal land, killing and displacing animals and destroying nature shouldn't we explore those possibilities?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:00 pm
NickFun wrote:
Alternative energy sources have been around for a hundred years. Ethanol, solar, methane etc. Before we go digging up Federal land, killing and displacing animals and destroying nature shouldn't we explore those possibilities?


Both yours and cycloptichorn posts are an example of why we don't drill in the US. Thank you both for proving the article right.

"Stop the war for oil, but don't drill here."
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:02 pm
What's wrong with both? You haven't discussed any logical problems with our position.

You seem to believe that it is ridiculous to think we should spend more money on alternative fuels before we go to war or drill up all our public lands. How do you defend your position that this is ridiculous?

Cycloptichorn
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:08 pm
So you are suggesting that we kill off every creature on Earth because oil for our comfort is more important? Are you also suggesting that alternative fuels do not exist?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:09 pm
http://i13.tinypic.com/3y865wi.jpg

The UK plans now to build the largest wind farm on earth .... to reach their target of getting 10% of energy from renewable sources by 2010.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:12 pm
Walter, let's not confuse the issue with facts.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:14 pm
Sorry, I really didn't intend to so.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 18 Dec, 2006 02:19 pm
Let's bring back rationing.
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