LoneStarMadam wrote:LOGANS ACT
Would you mind explaining in your own words specifically how Kerry violated the Logan Act?
He certainly doesn't have the authority of the United States Government, but he's no private citizen either. I agree that he's out of line, but his Senatorial status prevents the Logan Act from applying to him.
I think you read it wrong. It says:
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
So if Kerry does not have authority granted to him by those that have the responsibility to make policy, then he is acting essentially as a private citizen. The act says "Any citizen" which he is, and he carries on talks for which he lacks authority, I think he is violating the act.
LoneStarMadam wrote:Read the Logans Act.
It is called the Logan Act not Logans Act and I have read it. Same old stuff from LSM, he regrugitates stuff he hears on right wing radio and doesn't even understand it himself.
No one has ever been convicted under the act, signed into law in 1799, and only one person has ever even been indicted under it. Many legal scholars believe that act is unconstitutional.
And LSM continues to muck up this forum with nonsense without having a clue what he is talking about.
okie wrote:I think you read it wrong. It says:
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government[/b] or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
So if Kerry does not have authority granted to him by those that have the responsibility to make policy, then he is acting essentially as a private citizen. The act says "Any citizen" which he is, and he carries on talks for which he lacks authority, I think he is violating the act.
You read it wrong, genius. What proof do you have what Kerry's intent is?
Monte Cargo wrote:Certainly Senators Nelson and Kerry are doing nothing but undermining the president of the United States.
Oh, my gosh! Katy, bar the door!
It's a bit late in the day to be worrying about that, isn't it?
I guess our government has to imprison everybody, or at least the majority, for voting against president Bush during the last election. Build that fence around the US!
We don't inprison some of the most dangerous to the US, apparently. Kerry is still free.
Kerry is real popular with the troops!
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/016314.php
This quote:
This is a true story....Check out this photo from our mess hall at the US Embassy yesterday morning. Sen. Kerry found himself all alone while he was over here. He cancelled his press conference because no one came, he worked out alone in the gym w/o any soldiers even going up to say hi or ask for an autograph (I was one of those who was in the gym at the same time), and he found himself eating breakfast with only a couple of folks who are obviously not troops.
What is amazing is Bill O'Reilly came to visit with us and the troops at the CSH the same day and the line for autographs extended through the palace and people waited for two hours to shake his hand. You decide who is more respected and loved by us servicemen and women!
